Cancel culture expands to real life in the USA

My post was talking about her being cancelled for her turning her back on a piece of cloth. Raz came back with her tweets but its me creating a strawman. Ok.




Does she mean literally burn down churches or burn down the institutions metaphorically? There is a huge difference and I can't find anything from that tweet.

She was replying to a tweet that mentioned two churches literally being burned down. You can be charitable and say it was a metaphor as above, but it's pushing it since the incidents clearly happened. Stupid thing to say really.

Another "what if" scenario:

If a person (let's say white for sake of argument) quotes a tweet describing how mosques have been burned down because some terrorist attended there and says "burn them all down" would you be as equally charitable?
 
She was replying to a tweet that mentioned two churches literally being burned down. You can be charitable and say it was a metaphor as above, but it's pushing it since the incidents clearly happened. Stupid thing to say really.

Another "what if" scenario:

If a person (let's say white for sake of argument) quotes a tweet describing how mosques have been burned down because some terrorist attended there and says "burn them all down" would you be as equally charitable?

But you are equating two things that aren't the same. I believe there is some story of historical acts being carried out and a church and state cover up. It not like the Catholic Church doesn't have form for covering up and enabling abuses be it sexual on minors or taking new-borns from single mothers. I'll be honest I have sympathy with the idea of burning down the Catholic Church as an institution, with religious institutions in general. If however she was saying burn down all the churches then yes she's an idiot.
 
This reply was as predictable as the sun rise and set. Either comply with what I think/say patriotism and love of a country is or you hate this country and all it stands for. Again the hypocrisy is laughably thick. You are worse than all you claim to stand against and posts like this prove it.

Why represent a country you obviously don't like though, its fine if you don't want to stand for the national anthem or think America is evil, just don't go and represent them it just makes you a stupid hypocrite
 
Are you not able to support your country and take pride in it while also disagreeing/protesting the bad areas. American Conservatives are bat **** crazy fascists. :cry:
 
Can't you argue the same things about the UK?

How many independent MPs are there? When was the last time we didn't have a tory or labour government? How many MPs aren't fully aligned with their parties politics? How many times have we seen industries/companies/individuals donate to parties in return for favours? FPTP?

I wouldn't say corporations are as ingrained in our political system as the US, but I don't think we're far off and I do not believe we're heading in the right direction in regards to this.

The point that I was making is that you or me could stand in an election here and not be drowned out by a million pound campaign by one of the other parties. We have spending limits to stop the main parties dominating. If me or you stood in the US election we'd have no chance. The public would probably not even know who we are, apart from seeing our names on the ballot paper at the time of voting. Over here the media have to list all the candidates in the election, and have to attempt to give reasonable equal representation to all the parties during an election time. In the US we'd never be able to get our message out.

Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat. But he had to stand as one. The same with Trump standing as a Republican. It's because it costs too much money to run a campaign as a third party.

There are 87 MP's that aren't associated with the main two parties (excluding the Speakers position) in the UK parliament.

In a US Presidential election the American voters vote for a bunch of unelected Electors, who can ignore whatever the vote of the State was and make up their own mind.

I've defended the electoral college system in the past on here. But only because it is currently the better solution than any alternative voting idea to be presented. I've not defended it because I think its a good system. It's a bad system. But unless the dynamics of the different States change then there isn't much else that can be done.

In the recent Batley and Spen by election, a third party candidate, Galloway, managed to gain enough votes that could have altered the result (he got 21.92% of the vote). That situation doesn't happen in the US because any third party gets drowned out because they can't afford the election campaign to match the big two.

Arguably the US offers far more democracy to its citizens than we have. They get to elect everything from the dog catcher, schoolboard, to judiciary at State level. The fact that they allow jerrymandering, voter suppression and a Senate that is unrepresentative to the national population does change the equation a lot.

I bet most of them come under either the Republican or Democrat party affiliation?
 
The long term consequence of this will make things much worse for minority groups because it will seemingly appear that equality wouldn't mean equal treatment for everyone.

Yup, in part I think a lot of both "wokeness" and "cancel culture" is going to be a net negative, it seems to advocate a perpetual state of denying (or at least diminishing) any agency for individual members of a given minority - the old soft bigotry of low expectations.

This can be simply not holding people to the same social standards, having lower expectations for some groups. I mean there are already attempts to change the definition of words like "racism" in terms of power dynamics, where it's asserted that black people can't be racist towards white people, though this has morphed/been misinterpreted (which might be part of the intent) into simply "black people can't be racist" thus immune from racism directed towards (in the case of the US) Asian Americans etc..

Soft expectations can be seen in the UK too, for example, there is an awkward inherent conflict on the left between socially conservative minority groups (such as some socially conservative Muslims) and progressive types. A (mostly) white socially conservative Christian group protesting sex education/LGBT education outside a school would be much more quickly vilified than a group of (mostly) Asian socially conservative Muslims.
 
Why represent a country you obviously don't like though, its fine if you don't want to stand for the national anthem or think America is evil, just don't go and represent them it just makes you a stupid hypocrite

Does it make them this much of a stupid hypocrite?

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Posts like these are dumb. It's belittling and stupid to compare a Conservative UK government to Fascism, like are you that ignorant? Go watch a documentary or read a book.

We just need to get out of this fascist organisation [The EU] immediately. Imagine the types of law the EU will be putting in place in 20 years
 
Does it make them this much of a stupid hypocrite?


Roar87 said:
Posts like these are dumb. It's belittling and stupid to compare a Conservative UK government to Fascism, like are you that ignorant? Go watch a documentary or read a book.

Roar87 said:
We just need to get out of this fascist organisation [The EU] immediately. Imagine the types of law the EU will be putting in place in 20 years

It is amazing that he can't see he what a hypocrite he is. He is as bad if not worse than the people he claims to be against. There is a foul odour of authoritarianism about many of his post, mixed with a whiff of misogyny in plenty of others.
 
Does it make them this much of a stupid hypocrite?

Haven't you already used this quote before Freakbro? Do you have it saved in a folder on your desktop? Very sad lmao

It is amazing that he can't see he what a hypocrite he is. He is as bad if not worse than the people he claims to be against. There is a foul odour of authoritarianism about many of his post, mixed with a whiff of misogyny in plenty of others.

"There's a whiff of misogyny" this is honestly like something someone from the NKVD would've said except replace the word misogyny with Capitalist, it's bizarre cult like behaviour, little men trying to "shame" people into acting how they think they should
 
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"There's a whiff of misogyny" this is honestly like something someone from the NKVD would've said except replace the word misogyny with Capitalist, it's bizarre cult like behaviour, little men trying to "shame" people into acting how they think they should

I notice that its the misogyny comment and not being a hypocrite that you quote. Also that is a weak statement, you are reaching and coming up way short. Why not just call me a fascist lol.

You know fully well what the misogyny comment is about. When your reply to the 20 plus accusations of rape and sexual assault made by women against Trump over decades is, they were lying, only after money or asking for it. No there is no whiff of misogyny in that answer is there. You clearly have issues with women.

And of course there is the little men comment. What is it with you and masculinity? You appear obsessed by this image of strong men/males and calling out what you perceive to be weak men. What is that about?
 
Haven't you already used this quote before Freakbro? Do you have it saved in a folder on your desktop? Very sad lmao

It's just called having a memory.... And what's sad about pointing out a hypocrites hypocrisy when they like to go around calling other people hypocrites? The only sad thing about it having to be repeated, if it was, is that said hypocrite continues to be hypocritical.
 
A large part of the cancel culture today is the ideologically driven censorship which occurs even on this forum, I described in the thread knocking "conspiracy theories" just 3 out of however many topics that up until recently were dismissed as conspiracy theories by corporate and mainstream media (Hunter Biden laptop, Joe Biden denying involvement as VP in Hunter's dodgy deals, Wuhan lab leak theory) and it gets removed as "nonsense".

I mean, I even provided a link.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/30/laptop-shows-joe-biden-was-with-hunter-and-his-mexican-biz-meetings/

Why aren't we allowed to talk about this sort of thing? Trump was impeached twice for much less.
 
Ideological censorship such as what the GOP and the programmed masses churn out with their right wing cancel culture crusade.

So you're the saying the laptop, emails and photo of the business meeting are all fake? based on what evidence? even if that's the case then why aren't "journalists" digging for the truth? why are they hell bent on covering up certain stories? Trump was impeached twice for much less.
 
Not mentioned any of that. :rolleyes: Just tired of the right wing cancel culture, we had 4 years of failed ex president trump(officially worst pres of all time) trying to cancel everything in sight that disagreed with him, now its just out of control fascism.


You have also linked to an opinion piece promoting someone's book.
 
A large part of the cancel culture today is the ideologically driven censorship which occurs even on this forum, I described in the thread knocking "conspiracy theories" just 3 out of however many topics that up until recently were dismissed as conspiracy theories by corporate and mainstream media (Hunter Biden laptop, Joe Biden denying involvement as VP in Hunter's dodgy deals, Wuhan lab leak theory) and it gets removed as "nonsense".

I mean, I even provided a link.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/30/laptop-shows-joe-biden-was-with-hunter-and-his-mexican-biz-meetings/

Why aren't we allowed to talk about this sort of thing? Trump was impeached twice for much less.

Are you still banging the Hunter Biden drum? Let it go, its nonsense. Don Jnr is clearly a coke addict but who cares?

Trump was impeached for attempting to bribe a foreign government and then his Big Lie about the election that ended up in an insurrection. Yeah those abuses of power are just like Hunter Biden :rolleyes:

As for the Wuhan leak..

 
I notice that its the misogyny comment and not being a hypocrite that you quote. Also that is a weak statement, you are reaching and coming up way short. Why not just call me a fascist lol.

You know fully well what the misogyny comment is about. When your reply to the 20 plus accusations of rape and sexual assault made by women against Trump over decades is, they were lying, only after money or asking for it. No there is no whiff of misogyny in that answer is there. You clearly have issues with women.

And of course there is the little men comment. What is it with you and masculinity? You appear obsessed by this image of strong men/males and calling out what you perceive to be weak men. What is that about?

I really wish I could express in words how little I care about your opinion of me, why are you even mentioning Trump? Why are you obsessed with defending women on the internet? Maybe take some Vitamin D and go do some exercise

Are you still banging the Hunter Biden drum? Let it go, its nonsense.

This is the same guy who just dug up Trump when he hasn't even been mentioned lmao
 
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