Can't decide: 55" - B7 OLED or Sony X905

jpaul said:
I was talking about the Panasonic ez952, which I speculated was what HummuH1 had seen, which is 2K not the ez1002 at 4.5K which I think you referred to ?- lets keep in budget
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aah ok sorry

http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/panasonic-ez952

yes this one is perfect, either 55'' or 65''............as said, it'll look brilliant at home way better than in a showroom..............but the sony 55'' is still too expensive, it might be best to wait till next april
 
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Personally I would go for the Sony X905, don't get me wrong OLEDs are great for blacks etc but reason being with the tint issues ,ie yellow/pink tint etc a lot of users have, not to mention screen burn and unknown life span of blue OLEDs, I thinks it's best to wait a few years for OLEDs to mature and iron out issues, go over to the AVforums.com and see how many have swapped out their OLEDs more then once. End of the day you are paying a lot of money and there should not be issues like these on OLEDs.
 
That’s just pretending there isn’t a tonne of issues with LCD/LED tech though, XE90 is still over a grand and just the grey blacks alone would kill it for me, I didn’t realise how much better content could look until switching from an expensive KS9000 to an OLED B7.

Also been in the game long enough to know a perfect panel will never exist, even plasmas had their faults.
 
Ayahuasca said:
That’s just pretending there isn’t a tonne of issues with LCD/LED tech though, XE90 is still over a grand and just the grey blacks alone would kill it for me, I didn’t realise how much better content could look until switching from an expensive KS9000 to an OLED B7.

Also been in the game long enough to know a perfect panel will never exist, even plasmas had their faults.
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I'm just saying OLEDs seem to have more issues, I would be scared to game long hours on an OLED for screen burn, as to yellow/pink tints, no way would I want that, remember owners in AV forums that have had more then four replacements, even a few gone back to LED/LCD. I rather have a poorer black on LED/LCD until OLED is more mature, it's not like they are cheap to start with. Also remember OLEDS are still pretty new and nobody really knows their true life span and how fast OLED colours fade over time.


End of the day your call and choice. I'm just going to wait a few more years and enjoy old tech for a bit longer. There's still life in LED/LCD until OLEDs improve in the important areas that matter. Yes no perfect panel or TV but when you pay a lot you expect a lot in important areas IMHO.
 
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(maybe this is an apples against oranges comparison - but have R&D costs, customer expectations changed so much.)
Does oled now have same maturity as plasma did, and the folks with the Panasonic/Pioneer plasmas are still running with those.
started selling plasma in 2000's and they were reliable by 2005 ? folks were paying in the >£1500 domain, so with inflation perhaps more expensive than oled now

That is where the build quality comes in, although the Sonys have good technology, recently saw this impressive sony tech review
The Sony name is tarnished, for me, with the failing pcb boards (they dropped the ball, maybe the new CEO is fixing it), I do not remember a similar panasonic incident.

The above article does re-iterate that if you are not viewing in blackout, the oled blacks may be of less interest and that higher nits are of benefit (I never view in blackout)
However I want (have had) 7 years usage so I would invest in Panasonic, however not ready to drop £2k so would probably consider the updated version of their
led 902, rather than oled - currently mid-term with 1080p IPS et60 panasonic.
 
DeathStorm said:
They've been making OLEDs for years.

So at what point do you magically know OLED tech is mature enough for you?
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The blue TADF emiiters which are due next year on LG OLED Tvs, info here https://www.oled-info.com/lg-looking-adopt-blue-tadf-emitter-its-oled-tv-panels-next-year , things like these which will increase efficiency/lifespan of blue emitters etc, it will go a long a way making OLED TVs great.

Btw it is not a case of magically knowing, but waiting for the tech in question (ie OLED) to mature to a high standard IMHO.

I already know LCD TV lifespan is great since my old LG LCD is almost ten years old with no dead pixels or any issues in general and still going strong,when I can see an OLED do that with no screen burn, colour degradation pixel and screen wise then I know its mature to a good standard.
FYI I'm an OLED fan but would not buy one right now even with two grand to burn in my pocket at the moment on a new TV.
 
Elevon said:
The blue TADF emiiters which are due next year on LG OLED Tvs, info here https://www.oled-info.com/lg-looking-adopt-blue-tadf-emitter-its-oled-tv-panels-next-year , things like these which will increase efficiency/lifespan of blue emitters etc, it will go a long a way making OLED TVs great.
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How do you know they won't cause more problems than they solve? How do you know you won't be unlucky and get a bad batch?

Elevon said:
Btw it is not a case of magically knowing, but waiting for the tech in question (ie OLED) to mature to a high standard IMHO.
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You don't have a means of accurately gauging the point at which it becomes a 'mature' technology, so essentially you are relying on magically knowing when the time is right.

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I already know LCD TV lifespan is great since my old LG LCD is almost ten years old with no dead pixels or any issues in general and still going strong,when I can see an OLED do that with no screen burn, colour degradation pixel and screen wise then I know its mature to a good standard.
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Just seems an easy way to never make a decision, I'll budget for the TV lasting as long as the warranty, it would always bug me a little if I had to choose an inferior display because the superior one was potentially more problematic in the long run and so far I've done pretty well out of it.

Elevon said:
FYI I'm an OLED fan but would not buy one right now even with two grand to burn in my pocket at the moment on a new TV.
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I used to worry about burn in on my plasma but things worked out well after I stopped worrying, that's just wasted time and energy. Saying all that, you could still be right and the technology could be horribly flawed but if it serves you well long enough what does it matter?
 
DeathStorm said:
How do you know they won't cause more problems than they solve? How do you know you won't be unlucky and get a bad batch?





Just seems an easy way to never make a decision, I'll budget for the TV lasting as long as the warranty, it would always bug me a little if I had to choose an inferior display because the superior one was potentially more problematic in the long run and so far I've done pretty well out of it.



I used to worry about burn in on my plasma but things worked out well after I stopped worrying, that's just wasted time and energy. Saying all that, you could still be right and the technology could be horribly flawed but if it serves you well long enough what does it matter?
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I have made my decision based on research which I do on ALL types of hardware etc, end of the day I can wait a few years, OLEDs are improving slowly but still a lot they can improve on, regardless I'll going from IPS to VA panel so my blacks will improve big time while OLED mature over the years and get better, the OLED forums over at AVforums is a great place to get feedback, opinions on pros and cons of OLED from owners etc... end of the day you can't blame me for waiting a few years while they get better, not like I must use or need an OLED TV right now. I don't buy a TV for bragging rights, and what is top dog today can be bottom dog in the next year.

Most of us know the risk in buying any type of TV from LCD to OLED, they all have their weaknesses.
 
I have a LG OLED55C7 and a 55XD9305 - the OLED is literally miles ahead. Obviously XD is old but OLED all the way for me.
 
Purchased the LG 55"C7v at Curry's yesterday. Absolutely blown away by the picture! A massive difference to the 40" Sony Bravia w6 it replaced. Everything is sharper and more defined the colours are tremendous.

Gaming is fine even on the firmware that came with it. I have checked LG's website and it would seem there is a much newer version available but the TV itself is saying no update found on auto update despite being connected successfully to Wi-Fi. Would it just be sensible to download the update on USB and install that way?

Shawrey
 
yes - curious that lg oled prices are remaining low, closer to what might have been expected at new year model introduction time,
what will they be by xmas 'twist or stick' ? (surplus capacity, or do LG have heads-up on reliability,, with elevons' comments)
sony x905 do not seem to have similarly dropped.


faxfan said:
I have a LG OLED55C7 and a 55XD9305 - the OLED is literally miles ahead. Obviously XD is old but OLED all the way for me
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yes - lcd tech has moved on too, look at new x905 vs xd9305


Native Contrast
: 2843 : 1
Contrast is good, although not as good as that of many other TVs. The Sony X930D's blacks are not the deepest, but most people shouldn't notice this. We did expect better results from a high-end TV like this one, though.

Native Contrast
: 5411 : 1
Contrast with local dimming
: 6534 : 1
The native contrast ratio is very good on this Sony TV. With a ratio of around 5400, this is much better than the X930D. A high contrast ratio is crucial for good dark scenes performance while watching movies in a dark room.
 
Input lag is absolutely fine on them, I moved from a 100hz ultrawide gsync screen to my OLED B7 and whilst the OLED isn't as responsive it doesn't feel like there's noticeable delay, I can still play games like FIFA and World of Tanks just fine, not tried any shooters other than BF1 on it, oh and PUBG and didn't have any issues aiming/killing people.
 
Shawreyboy said:
Purchased the LG 55"C7v at Curry's yesterday. Absolutely blown away by the picture! A massive difference to the 40" Sony Bravia w6 it replaced. Everything is sharper and more defined the colours are tremendous.

Gaming is fine even on the firmware that came with it. I have checked LG's website and it would seem there is a much newer version available but the TV itself is saying no update found on auto update despite being connected successfully to Wi-Fi. Would it just be sensible to download the update on USB and install that way?

Shawrey
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That's good to know :) I currently have a Sony W829B and been meaning to upgrade. Trying to hold for Black Friday, but the struggle is real.
 
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