What is your SoC voltage? Try 1.1V. I'm going to post my settings when I get home..
Can't get 3600mhz ram work at 3600mhz on Ryzen 5600x
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What is your SoC voltage? Try 1.1V. I'm going to post my settings when I get home..
Soldato
That’s really odd. iTX motherboards generally have very good memory overclocking and AMD generally loves Crucial.
I have Crucial Ballistix 3200 that can do 3600 CL 15-18-15-15-28 at 1.45v.
what does your motherboard say in the QVL list? It’ll have a list of RAM that has been tested with the board.
also set your ram voltage to 1.40 and soc voltage to 1.2.
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For me it turned out to be that my ram modules were not compatible with AMD chips, Patriots wouldn't run, Corsair went in and worked instantly 3600mhz
Soldato
Makes sense.
Certain chips can fight with AMD or Intel.
Micron Rev E hates Intel. It’ll work, but not great.
Will definitely try this, it used to work so not sure if it was a bios update that broke things but stopping bios access seems really really bad, especially as this motherboard seems to have no cmos battery :/
So these are my Crucial Ballistix 3600 C16 max OC settings, ALL timings tweaked, stress stable and game stable for 5 months. Max frequency with my 5600X is 3733MHz, anything faster results in WHEAs. RAM itself is capable of at least 4000MHz, I can boot 4200MHz.
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Clear CMOS pins are at the back of PCIE slot(where far RAM slot and PCIE would intersect)
Soldato
If it’s just a BIOS reset, go to your motherboard support page and find the JBAT1 jumper (find in the pdf document).
Use something metal and conductive to connect the pins to reset the jumper.
If it’s worse, it’s fine, you can use your motherboards flashback function to recover a bad flash.
FYI.
The battery is located under the rear i/o shroud as you can see in this video (~ 3.20).
Not sure how to remove the shroud so take care if you go this route.
Update - I finally got it to post to windows at 3600mhz
Unfortunately, that was as far as it got.
Immediately upon windows loading up, my color was very dull, and within a second or 2 after typing my pin and getting to the windows screen it said an AMD driver was incompatible with the system or something like that, attempted to restart and it froze up, hard power down'd, after post got the windows recovery screen. . . . Reset cmos and set it back to 3200mhz, and it was like nothing had ever happened. . . Had done some digging, noticed my tRC was set at 74, stock xmp says 68, set it to 68 and that's what allowed me to get it past bios at 3600mhz. . . Granted, I wouldn't call that a successful post by any means, but doing that got it further than the usual bios hang and yellow (RAM Error) LED that lights up on mobo when I do try and set it to 3600mhz
Unfortunately, that was as far as it got.
Immediately upon windows loading up, my color was very dull, and within a second or 2 after typing my pin and getting to the windows screen it said an AMD driver was incompatible with the system or something like that, attempted to restart and it froze up, hard power down'd, after post got the windows recovery screen. . . . Reset cmos and set it back to 3200mhz, and it was like nothing had ever happened. . . Had done some digging, noticed my tRC was set at 74, stock xmp says 68, set it to 68 and that's what allowed me to get it past bios at 3600mhz. . . Granted, I wouldn't call that a successful post by any means, but doing that got it further than the usual bios hang and yellow (RAM Error) LED that lights up on mobo when I do try and set it to 3600mhz
what he said.
Had so many issues with this kit, see this thread: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/xmp-issues.18945439/
this kit is junk
Hi,
I'm having similar problems. I recently built a new system with Ryzen 5 5600X, MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk and Corsair Vengeance LPX 2 x 16 GB 3600 MHz CL18 (kit model CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18, Micron rev. B according to CPU-Z and Thaiphoon Burner)
After putting the computer together and booting to UEFI for the first time I casually enabled XMP, saved & rebooted and ended up with no post and the DRAM error led on the board was lit.
I had to do a CMOS reset and the RAM is now working fine at 2666 MHz.
I've spent a lot of time researching this and apparently Corsair RAM is not very good. My own fault for cutting corners in the wrong place and blindly trusting the compatibility filter on a part picker site.
Also, I'm not really sure whether this is a RAM kit problem, an MSI BIOS problem or an AMD problem (memory controller).
The board shipped with a very old BIOS version (on which I initially tried the XMP profile), I think the build date was way back in 2020. I've since updated it to the newest version 7C91vA8 BUT according to someone on another forum, this version is also known to have various issues.
I've now gotten various suggestions from around the web on how to proceed:
1. Enable XMP but manually lower DRAM clock to 3200 MHz and FCLK to 1600, voltage to 1,35V, keep XMP timings
2. Manually set DRAM clock to 3200 MHz and FCLK to 1600, voltage to 1,35V, leave timings on auto/default
3. Downgrade BIOS to 7C91vA7 and try XMP without any manual tweaking
4. Get a new, better RAM kit
I haven't tried anything yet since my free time is limited and clearing the CMOS involves removing the ridiculously huge GPU along with its anti-sag bracket. So I'm trying to learn as much as possible before doing anything and just hoping it works on the first try (a long shot, I know).
The board SHOULD automatically retry failed RAM settings for a number of times before reverting to previous configuration but for many people this seems to not work with the 3600 MHz issue specifically, even on other manufacturers' B550 boards.
Now, I know next to nothing about RAM overclocking aside from what I've read during the last week or so. I'm not looking to squeeze out every last bit of performance but I'm not willing to leave too much on the table either. So I'm fine with going for 3200 MHz if it works and is less trouble.
On the other hand, having read about Corsair's reputation, I'm not sure if this kit is worth any more hassle. I feel like ordering a Crucial kit right away. But if it's a board or CPU issue, that's wasted money.
Any tips, experiences or opinions would be very much appreciated. I'll also be carefully reading through this thread again.
Full system specs:
I'm having similar problems. I recently built a new system with Ryzen 5 5600X, MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk and Corsair Vengeance LPX 2 x 16 GB 3600 MHz CL18 (kit model CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18, Micron rev. B according to CPU-Z and Thaiphoon Burner)
After putting the computer together and booting to UEFI for the first time I casually enabled XMP, saved & rebooted and ended up with no post and the DRAM error led on the board was lit.
I had to do a CMOS reset and the RAM is now working fine at 2666 MHz.
I've spent a lot of time researching this and apparently Corsair RAM is not very good. My own fault for cutting corners in the wrong place and blindly trusting the compatibility filter on a part picker site.
Also, I'm not really sure whether this is a RAM kit problem, an MSI BIOS problem or an AMD problem (memory controller).
The board shipped with a very old BIOS version (on which I initially tried the XMP profile), I think the build date was way back in 2020. I've since updated it to the newest version 7C91vA8 BUT according to someone on another forum, this version is also known to have various issues.
I've now gotten various suggestions from around the web on how to proceed:
1. Enable XMP but manually lower DRAM clock to 3200 MHz and FCLK to 1600, voltage to 1,35V, keep XMP timings
2. Manually set DRAM clock to 3200 MHz and FCLK to 1600, voltage to 1,35V, leave timings on auto/default
3. Downgrade BIOS to 7C91vA7 and try XMP without any manual tweaking
4. Get a new, better RAM kit
I haven't tried anything yet since my free time is limited and clearing the CMOS involves removing the ridiculously huge GPU along with its anti-sag bracket. So I'm trying to learn as much as possible before doing anything and just hoping it works on the first try (a long shot, I know).
The board SHOULD automatically retry failed RAM settings for a number of times before reverting to previous configuration but for many people this seems to not work with the 3600 MHz issue specifically, even on other manufacturers' B550 boards.
Now, I know next to nothing about RAM overclocking aside from what I've read during the last week or so. I'm not looking to squeeze out every last bit of performance but I'm not willing to leave too much on the table either. So I'm fine with going for 3200 MHz if it works and is less trouble.
On the other hand, having read about Corsair's reputation, I'm not sure if this kit is worth any more hassle. I feel like ordering a Crucial kit right away. But if it's a board or CPU issue, that's wasted money.
Any tips, experiences or opinions would be very much appreciated. I'll also be carefully reading through this thread again.
Full system specs:
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (not OC'd)
- MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (BIOS ver. 7C91vA8)
- Corsair Vengeance LPX 2 x 16 GB 3600 MHz CL18 (kit model CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18, currently running at 2666 MHz plug'n'play)
- MSI Radeon RX 6800 Gaming X Trio
- Samsung 980 PRO Evo 512 GB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe (OS disk)
- Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe
- Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB SATA SSD
- be quiet! Dark Power 12 850W
You need to remember that any popular brand is selling literally hundreds of thousands of RAM sticks a year. The only bad stuff you read is people who have problems. It doesn't account for the millions of Corsair RAM kits that people have been using without issues for years. Not a Corsair fanboy or anything just stating what always happens with anything popular.
One thing I'll say for your situation because I always bring it up especially if I see a user who has just signed up or seems inexperienced. Make sure your RAM is in the correct slots (2 and 4). It's very unlikely that the RAM will work at 2666 but not 3600. This leads me to believe you maybe had it in slots 1 and 2 or something similar and the board can't cope with that. I remember a guy on Reddit who had just bought over $5,000 worth of PC parts and couldn't figure out why his RAM wasn't working. This reddit thread went on for like 40 comments and I'll let you guess why his RAM wasn't working.
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One thing I'll say for your situation because I always bring it up especially if I see a user who has just signed up or seems inexperienced. Make sure your RAM is in the correct slots (2 and 4). It's very unlikely that the RAM will work at 2666 but not 3600. This leads me to believe you maybe had it in slots 1 and 2 or something similar and the board can't cope with that. I remember a guy on Reddit who had just bought over $5,000 worth of PC parts and couldn't figure out why his RAM wasn't working. This reddit thread went on for like 40 comments and I'll let you guess why his RAM wasn't working.
Hi,
Thanks for replying. The sticks are in the correct slots. I even double checked the board manual for RAM configurations even though 2 & 4 is fairly standard for dual sticks.
It's not the first PC I've built.
But it's true that I'm inexperienced with overclocking. Just never been into it. Still, thanks for the advice as I'm sure it really is a common mistake.I got the CPU used from a reputable person on another forum (it's the only second-hand part in the build). Today I asked him if he ever had similar problems. He said he had no issues running 2 x 16 kits on XMP profiles with 3600 MHz speeds, so I'm pretty sure the issue is not the CPU or the memory controller. Unless something happened when I installed the CPU into my board but I've had no other problems so far. So that leaves the sticks and mobo/BIOS.
I'm planning to schedule some time for weekend to see if I'll have better luck running the newer BIOS.
@hyperreal That's fair. Just making sure.
Oh one thing I forgot to say. Your MSI BIOS has 2 xmp profiles to choose from right? Try the other. I can tell you that MSI supplies different imc voltages depending on the XMP profile you select.
You also may want to try each stick individually at 3600. If one works and the other fails then that does let you know the issue.
Oh one thing I forgot to say. Your MSI BIOS has 2 xmp profiles to choose from right? Try the other. I can tell you that MSI supplies different imc voltages depending on the XMP profile you select.
You also may want to try each stick individually at 3600. If one works and the other fails then that does let you know the issue.
No harm done.
Thanks. This is very helpful and something no one else has brought up! Maybe that's why there are two profiles to choose from in the UEFI while CPU-Z and Thaiphoon Burner only show one? I've only checked the two profiles against each other for clock and timings but never thought of cross-checking the voltage.
This will definitely be on my to-do list for the weekend if I end up with no post again.