They had rough patches, but have historically been ok.
Jag just seem to have been consistently bad at everything since about the 1970s. In fact probably the most reliable patch they had was when they were using Ford parts lol
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They had rough patches, but have historically been ok.
Jag just seem to have been consistently bad at everything since about the 1970s. In fact probably the most reliable patch they had was when they were using Ford parts lol
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It’s a lion derived V6 used in the car in the OP. Ie Ford/PSA. Too subtle for you I guess as it requires knowledge not just retort.
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So they picked an engine which wasn't great and implemented it badly. Great product design...
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you missed allegedly on your post.
Are we talking about Lotus Elise and the use of the K series engine again?
Had this earlier in the year when my VRS span a main bearing. Paid for the repair at £6500 and absolutely hated its guts when i got it back, i just couldnt trust it.
I sold it and bought an old V60 D5 which will hopefully keep me going for a couple of years.
K series is at least cheap to fix or replace. But they later went with Toyota which fixed all of those problems...
JLR later went and designed their own engines "ingenium" and they are ******* terrible! Identify an issue..make it much worse. Incompetence mixed with penny pinching.
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My dads next-door neighbor has just bought an XE with the 2ltr Diesel ingenium engine. He was so chuffed showing us his new pride and joy. I couldnt bring myself to tell him
A friend's petrol XE ate it's gearbox before 100k miles. Had to sell it as scrap basically. No one will buy it, to expensive to fix.
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Too many gear changes trying to escape your anecdotes no doubt…
The ZF box used by everyone ?
K series wasn't too bad for reliability in the mgf and Elise.
With the eventual upgrade to steel dowels and polymer coated head gasket the reliability woes were halted.
When tuning them as long as the bottom end is well balanced then they aren't really an issue.
Jags 3.0v6 was an upgrade from the 2.7 engine essentially the same as nford and PSA designed it but with larger capacity. Unfortunately although they knew the issues with the 2.7 they elected not to rectify them, this was down to cost, as essentially they would have to redesign the block and crank, cylinder spacing, ancillary components etc etc,
The issue with these engines is the main bearings are to narrow.
I believe they thought the number of failures compared to the actual cost of development wasn't financially worth while. Unfortunately they did not take into account the damage to the brand.
The ingenium engines would be reliable if it wasn't for the dpf system, when performing regens it needs excess fuel to do it, unfortunately in some models it doesn't get hot enough and others gets too hot, and basically fills the cylinder block with fuel most people don't realise and engine failure ensues, I don't think jlr are any worse in this regard than most manufacturers it just gets shouted about more/picked up by the press.
BMW had major issues with timing chain failures, VW has damper pulleys falling off on engines, ford previous gen and current gen transit and ranger engines randomly snap any rotating equipment, very costly failures with emission systems and fuel injection bla bla bla.
As said, implementation matters a lot. You can have the best parts in the world, but if you install them on the ****, they are going to break.
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As a counter to the Jag hate, Ive had a 3.0DS XF, a 3.0D XJ which were issue free with the engine (had an issue with the infotainment in the XJ not able to update the maps which was fixed with a new module on warranty) The XJ was a superb car, supremely comfortable, and wafted about with ease. I did a 435mile drive to Edinburgh from my house for work and did it without stopping and felt relatively fresh considering which was amazing.
The wife has had 2 Jaguar E Paces, 1 diesel and 1 hybrid. Only problem with 1 of them was the heater stopped working which was fixed on warranty and she now drives a hybrid Evoque which has been trouble free for the two years shes had it so far. So between us we've had 5 pretty much trouble free JLR cars, perhaps we've been lucky
The wife has had 2 Jaguar E Paces, 1 diesel and 1 hybrid. Only problem with 1 of them was the heater stopped working which was fixed on warranty and she now drives a hybrid Evoque which has been trouble free for the two years shes had it so far. So between us we've had 5 pretty much trouble free JLR cars, perhaps we've been lucky
First engine. Then when challenged you turned it in to gearbox. Now it’s about the install.
Just give up the hate and made up stories . The thread about the engine. What relevance is how a ZF gearbox is installed to reliability and engine
Remind me why such an expert like you isn’t working in the industry
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He might have to when an Indian dude comes for his job in the near future
This hits the nail on the head.
If you based opinions on what people moan about on forums, we’d all be going back to horse and cart. BMW ‘manufacture their engines to fail’, ZF gearboxes blow up, JLR are incompetent penny pinchers.. you can’t win.