Census 2021

Did mine last week but still consider it pointless activity. There is more data on me already existing across government organisations, let alone other organisations and social media, than they can collect by me completing the census.
 
billysielu said:
If atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god - then what is?
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A Gnostic Atheist, or a Strong Atheist are the most commonly used terms to describe a positive belief that there are no gods.

A lot of people use the term Antitheist to describe that position also, I do often too; although technically an Antitheist is someone who is opposed to the belief in a God or gods (they think it's a bad thing); so that would make me both an Antitheist and an Agnostic Atheist.

Being an Atheist simply means that you reject the positive claim that there is a God. It says nothing about whether or not you believe that there is no God; in the same way that being found not guilty does not equal innocent, instead it simply means that the positive guilty claim has not met it's burden of proof.

Usually when people use the term Atheist, they mean that they are Agnostic Atheists i.e, they do not believe that a God exists because the claim has not met it's burden of proof, but also do not hold a positive belief that a God does not exist, because it would be impossible to prove.

Most Agnostic Atheist's tend to feel that given the lack of evidence for one, it's incredibly likely that there are no gods, but also acknowledge that right now, we do not have the capability to prove that one does not exist, in the same way that we cannot prove that the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus or Bigfoot do not exist.

Agnostic Atheism is probably the most intellectually honest position, even if like myself, you happen to also believe that a very good case can be made for there being no Gods.

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Having said all of the above, people do tend to use these terms quite interchangeably, so it's always worth asking someone precisely what they mean when they apply these labels, as you can never be certain they're defining them as you are.
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I've gone jediz was tempted to give wife's orientation as bi for a laugh:D. There is some stupidity though, I have a son and a daughter (with my wife), it still asks what their relationship is to each other:rolleyes:.
 
Haggisman said:
Pretty sure thats agnostic.

Atheism is the belief that god(s) do(es) n't exist *
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Athiesm is the rejection of the belief, not the opposite belief.

Agnostic is just someone who will never confirm or deny anything.

The ending of all papers usually is agnostic, the writer never would put forward a solution to the problem they have investigated, because that leaves them open to criticism.

You could argue my definition can be flipped but there is a big difference, if a glass is half full or half empty, it can be said is the same thing.

The attitude of the person saying one of those, is the difference, the glass itself is not the topic, but the person who says it.


Also, when should i fill out this census, it says 23rd march? But you've all already done it?
 
theone8181 said:
I've gone jediz was tempted to give wife's orientation as bi for a laugh:D. There is some stupidity though, I have a son and a daughter (with my wife), it still asks what their relationship is to each other:rolleyes:.
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Wish we could go back to the old days. :D
If you were moderately well off middle class (farmers, merchants , doctors etc.) you would list head of household (usually most senior male), wife, children by age, aged relatives living with you, then indoor servants then outdoor servants.
If working class, head again, wife, children (still alive, also applies above), other families or lodgers in the same household. Can be ten or more in a terraced house.

Census rolls are interesting social documents.
 
Uther said:
Mine says on 21st March, I haven't done it yet, even though I know there'll be no change on that date.
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I’ve filled mine in already. The questions allow to forecast/predict things for that date like who will be staying overnight etc.
 
platinum87 said:
You could argue my definition can be flipped but there is a big difference, if a glass is half full or half empty, it can be said is the same thing.

The attitude of the person saying one of those, is the difference, the glass itself is not the topic, but the person who says it.
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The engineer in me is wanting to know what to what tolerance we're measuring the volume of liquid in the glass.
The BA in me is asking where we're defining the half-way point? Is it half of the total volume of liquid the glass can contain or half of the usual fill point?
The scientist in me is pointing out that since we're not in a perfect vacuum, the glass is always going to be completely full, and all we're arguing about is what proportion of the contents is liquid :p
 
Haggisman said:
The engineer in me is wanting to know what to what tolerance we're measuring the volume of liquid in the glass.
The BA in me is asking where we're defining the half-way point? Is it half of the total volume of liquid the glass can contain or half of the usual fill point?
The scientist in me is pointing out that since we're not in a perfect vacuum, the glass is always going to be completely full, and all we're arguing about is what proportion of the contents is liquid :p
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The old person in me has read your post twice and now has a headache.
 
Haggisman said:
The engineer in me is wanting to know what to what tolerance we're measuring the volume of liquid in the glass.
The BA in me is asking where we're defining the half-way point? Is it half of the total volume of liquid the glass can contain or half of the usual fill point?
The scientist in me is pointing out that since we're not in a perfect vacuum, the glass is always going to be completely full, and all we're arguing about is what proportion of the contents is liquid :p
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Is the social butterfly in you asking the other parts of you not to bring up this debate down the pub for fear of not being invited out again? :p
 
Terminal_Boy said:
The old person in me has read your post twice and now has a headache.
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Have some water... unfortunately we may or may not only have half a glass

FortuitousFluke said:
Is the social butterfly in you asking the other parts of you not to bring up this debate down the pub for fear of not being invited out again? :p
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If you're in the pub and your glass is only half full then it's time to get to the bar!
 
Haggisman said:
The engineer in me is wanting to know what to what tolerance we're measuring the volume of liquid in the glass.
The BA in me is asking where we're defining the half-way point? Is it half of the total volume of liquid the glass can contain or half of the usual fill point?
The scientist in me is pointing out that since we're not in a perfect vacuum, the glass is always going to be completely full, and all we're arguing about is what proportion of the contents is liquid :p
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