Yeah it is funny - I originally had some sympathy because I know from experience going down that road you can start to question whether you missed a speed limit change sign - but then to find they've put signage up around that point since...
Challenging a speed camera ticket due to no "change of speed" sign
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Yeah it is funny - I originally had some sympathy because I know from experience going down that road you can start to question whether you missed a speed limit change sign - but then to find they've put signage up around that point since...
That might have to be comeback comment of the day haha!
Maybe reading some of these might help?
I'm guessing you probably don't believe in people having the "individual freedoms" to cross the ******* road without being killed or seriously injured.
Where's the fun in that, kill joy!
"muh freedumbs!"
I can't believe this thread is still going on lol. Anyway, one of the tenets of Libertarianism is "Libertarians emphasize personal accountability for one's actions and choices" doesn't seem to be a lot of that going on with the OP...
I can't believe this thread is still going on lol. Anyway, one of the tenets of Libertarianism is "Libertarians emphasize personal accountability for one's actions and choices" doesn't seem to be a lot of that going on with the OP...
I would indeed be interested to know when they were installed but in any case this was the speed limit sign before, there's no comparison.Oh and just for ****s and giggles, StreetView has been updated to April 2025 for the road in question and there are in fact also two repeater signs with speed camera warning logos immediately before the camera now. No doubt added specifically to help people like the OP who were struggling, so not only did he miss the big signs on Canford Way when he entered the 30 zone, it looks like he also missed the ones right before the camera that he's been arguing should have been in place to stop people getting caught out. Proper comedy.
I've added some markers to help spot them.
(And they're visible in the March 2025 views from the side street too, so almost certainly not added immediately after the OP caught...)
So they drop the speed limit and also make the signs smaller, I wonder why ?
Possibly to generate £2 million ? :
As regards my comment about ignoring signs with speed cameras on them, the new (much smaller) signs have the speed camera above a minute "30".
My Village has speed camera signs all over it, but there are no speed cameras there, thus I have learnt to "tune out" of speed camera warning signs
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I do follow speed limits, it was an accident.
Oh yes, and I was wrong, I wasn't doing 37mph, it was 36mph (on a primary route DC).
We have a section of road near us which is also an urban primary route DC, the A61 between Hillsborough into Town, and if any non local ever got a speeding ticket on that (so long as it was under 40) I would have a great deal of sympathy for them because it is just not a road you would expect to have a 30 limit, particularly the section between B&Q and Neepsend lane. The thing is, unlike in Bournemouth, there is no speed camera there, which may be why almost everyone does way over 30mph......
As mentioned earlier there is a "tramgate" near my shop, I often see people driving through and if they are non locals I have much sympathy with them too because if you are not a Sheffielder you just wouldn't know about to.
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How can a "narcissist" have sympathy for other people (see above), you're talking rubbish man.
What's this got to do with you ignoring multiple speed limit signs just before the camera?
While I haven't been out to physically measure them, from looking at streetview, it appears the signs are literally the exact same size.
However, I'm not sure that's actually relevant, since as you've said yourself, you wouldn't have "seen" them anyway due to your selective vision.
Who exactly are you trying to blame for that? If you've decided to ignore signs then it's nobody's fault but your own when that comes back to bite you.
Man the **** up, learn from your mistake, and stop trying to weasel out of it like some petulant child
Now the road is part of a more consistent 30mph area speed limit that reduces any potential for confusion compared to the previous situation of the limit varying up and down from road to road, the need for signage is much reduced because the limit isn't changing frequently along the road.
There's nothing after the large 30 signs as you enter the limit to suggest the limit changes to anything other than 30mph, so the small repeaters here aren't really necessary at all still but clearly far too many people struggle with the basic concept of identifying a 30mph limit so they've chosen to put some extra help in to stop all the 'lowest common denominator' types costing themselves money through their own incompetence.
You think they're the "exact same size" ?
Seriously.....
Methinks you're having a laugh, either that or there are none so blind as those who will not see.
I estimate the previous sign is about 8x the width of the post, the new one is about 5X. In fact the post on which it is attached is about 2.5X taller than the old sign but about 5X taller than the new sign.
The previous sign has a large very visible yellow border, the new one a rather less visible dark blue one.
Possibly most importantly the older sign has the speed limit above, and the camera sign below, i.e. it is a speed limit sign.
The older sign must be a hell of a lot clearer as the number caught speeding went from about 40 a year, to 11,000 in the first full year
>>However, I'm not sure that's actually relevant, since as you've said yourself, you wouldn't have "seen" them anyway due to your selective vision.<<
It's a speed limit sign, with a huge yellow background......
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Me and about 11,000 others (in the first full year alone)
See post 71Ah ok, so you put the word "sympathy" in a post 228 posts in. Thats very convincing
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...o-change-of-speed-sign.19001161/post-37764479
Yeah yeah yeah, anything you say, me and about 11,000 others (in the first full year alone).
>>Now the road is part of a more consistent 30mph area speed limit that reduces any potential for confusion compared to the previous situation of the limit varying up and down from road to road<<
Methinks you do not understand the situation, before, on the primary route, it was a consistent 40mph, it is now inconsistent.
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I see your struggles include general reading ability, as well as reading road signs. "a more consistent 30mph area speed limit" Make sure you read all the words, it helps understand the context of the comments. It's not 'now inconsistent' at all, there is much more uniformity amongst all the roads in this area and far less likelihood of changing speed limits as you move from one road to another.
This is just another way you're desperately trying to avoid confronting the fact this is purely and entirely your own fault. And yes, 11,000 other people are almost certainly crap drivers too if they drive past 30 signs and think that means the speed limit is 40mph, that's absolutely next level stupid and there's no excuse for it.
This is as hilarious as it is pathetically embarrassing for you, displaying such an inability to take responsibility for your own actions.
So is the new one
Yes, of course, it couldn't possibly be because people are still driving at the same speed, but purely by virtue of the limit being lower more people end up being above the limit
The new one is also speed limit sign with a smaller blue background. The speed limit part of it therefore takes up proportionally more of the sign, so should be more noticeable.
If you're really trying to claim that you can't understand a speed limit if the red circle isn't in the right place, then I'd suggest a) going to Specsavers, and b) handing in your licence and getting a bus pass.
Missing a speed limit sign in an area you aren't familiar with is a bit rubbish, but understandable. Admitting you are mentally unable to process a speed limit sign unless it's in a specific format suggests deeper issues, and maybe some additional driver training/retaking your test would be a good idea?
Give me strength.
But you said this…..
So you’ve been shown that there are speed limit signs just before the camera signs, but you say you ignore those signs.
If you ignore them, why did you want to start a petition to enforce them being there?
I haven’t read all the posts since the first one I quoted yet but from your reply to me, I’m assuming you’re still not accepting responsibility for your own actions, and trying to blame everyone else. Is that right?
Because if so, I’m now out. It’s impossible to discuss anything that’s as immovable as a five ton block of concrete. I’m wasting my time here.
But you said this…..
So you’ve been shown that there are speed limit signs just before the camera signs, but you say you ignore those signs.
If you ignore them, why did you want to start a petition to enforce them being there?
I haven’t read all the posts since the first one I quoted yet but from your reply to me, I’m assuming you’re still not accepting responsibility for your own actions, and trying to blame everyone else. Is that right?
Because if so, I’m now out. It’s impossible to discuss anything that’s as immovable as a five ton block of concrete. I’m wasting my time here.
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