Cheap 4x4

AHarvey - if the roads are bumpy and broken up and you want a 4x4 then a Jeep would make a good choice - I'm biased as I have one and its for sale - only selling because I want an Impreza and I already have a golf for daily use. Although I may keep the Jeep and just bin the golf.

If you can find an LPG one you and you'll get well over 40mpg (on a price comparison basis) out of a tank of gas. They are cheap to buy, parts are cheap and apart from fuel (17 average 26 on a run) cheap to keep. I spent about a grand since I've had it but a good chunk of that is labour for doing to rear springs (the petrol ones are weak and can give out, diesels are much stronger and I had new ones fitted). Proper drive selection 2/4/4part/4Low and being automatic its just press and go. Don't get a diesel as they have naff engines apparently. These Cherokees were flat packed and shipped to Austria where they were built.
 
Suzuki Vitara will fit your requirements Perfectly.
Cheap as chips & Ultra reliable, 4x4 but still of a size that makes Green lanes easy to get round what with the higher drivers position etc
I bought my SWB over a year ago & it has been superb & has just gone through another MOT, You may want to go for the Grand Vitara for size, My sister has one of these which has been equally sound.
Just make sure you get underneath the rear arches & floor, If it's solid sweet just stay away from the ones that have started to rot.

By the way my SWB Vit cost me 80 quid, I've just put the 2nd MOT on it & I go Off road.
It also cost me 129 quid for a years insurance with Adrian Flux, I'd say that was Cheap motoring wouldn't you ?
 
[TW]Fox;13018173 said:
From what I can see your comment, as accurate as it may be, had nothing to do with this guy who wants to buy a huge 4x4 so it doesnt matter if he crashes. Accidents only happen if you **** something up, or somebody else cocks something up. It's very rare that a genuine, unavoidable accident happens.

Still, registered March 2008 eh? Yet you knew all about something that happened in 2006 ;)
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I asked because as the weather gets worse there is a higher chance that something could go wrong and an accident could occur, on the advice of the people here I am going to look at getting some winter tyres instead.

I have been reading these forums since early 07, however a work colleague who left these forums was a member from 04 or 05 I think and knows your posts quite well. He found it highly amusing that someone who ditched his own car is making comments about someone elses driving without knowing anything about them! The mod team are aware of my connection to this person as I have spoken to them about it as I didn't want anything from him coming back on me!
 
AHarvey said:
He found it highly amusing that someone who ditched his own car is making comments about someone elses driving without knowing anything about them!
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I know you trust your ability to the effect that you feel you need a huge cheap car incase you crash. I'm more than happy to admit I epic failed at the driving, and have been so ever since it happened, so I'm really not sure what your point is, other than as an attempt to try and deflect some of the flak you are getting in this thread towards somebody else.

If anything, my previous experience of parking a car in an unusual location perhaps leads me to be a little more qualified in expressing my fear that you think the way forward in winter is a car you dont care if you crash.

Why not get some skills? I mean, properly? Go on a skid pan day perhaps? Learn to drive your Golf in winter conditions so it doesn't matter how nice it is because you won't bash it?

Failing that get the car a decent set of tyres, have a practice on an icy carpark, and drive carefully. Every year millions of motorists don't crash into walls at 5mph on country lanes in the morning. I'm sure you and your wife can manage it as well.
 
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The point of tyres is that they will act better than a 4x4 in the weather conditions you are claiming are so bad. To get the 4x4 to be safe on the road in deep snow and ice you'll need chains/winter tyres on it anyway, so why waste money on the 4x4 when you can save all that easily just by getting tyres that will make you/gf having an accident a whole lot less likely.

Nobody is commenting on your driving ability (although you seem to see fit to have a go at someone that's had an accident and learnt from it), quite simply everyone is providing advice that will give the same/better results for much less money. :)
 
[TW]Fox;13018359 said:
I know you trust your ability to the effect that you feel you need a huge cheap car incase you crash. I'm more than happy to admit I epic failed at the driving, and have been so ever since it happened, so I'm really not sure what your point is, other than as an attempt to try and deflect some of the flak you are getting in this thread towards somebody else.
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I don't think you do epic fail, you drive a nice car and have only had one accident, something that you have learnt from. I was just a bit peeved that you made a rather daft comment about my driving ability. However that seemed ok by you until I bit back. I was asking purely because it is better to be aware of any risks and be prepared for them that just go on ignorant of any risks! I am sure you can agree with me about that!

Why not get some skills? I mean, properly? Go on a skid pan day perhaps? Learn to drive your Golf in winter conditions so it doesn't matter how nice it is because you won't bash it?
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We've both done it, I paid for this for both of us back in 2005. It not a lack of skill that made me ask, it was purely because I was worried about the roads them selves. If you have any experience of country roads you will know how the locals tear around like loons thinking they own the roads, even in the golf we often end up squashed in a hedge so someone can get past. I simply thought that an old 4x4 would make life easier for us over the winter months.

InvaderGIR said:
Nobody is commenting on your driving ability (although you seem to see fit to have a go at someone that's had an accident and learnt from it), quite simply everyone is providing advice that will give the same/better results for much less money. :)
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[TW]Fox;13017796 said:
Sounds like he needs a car to mask his driving fail.
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Thanks Malc :D
 
InvaderGIR said:
The point of tyres is that they will act better than a 4x4 in the weather conditions you are claiming are so bad. To get the 4x4 to be safe on the road in deep snow and ice you'll need chains/winter tyres on it anyway, so why waste money on the 4x4 when you can save all that easily just by getting tyres that will make you/gf having an accident a whole lot less likely.

Nobody is commenting on your driving ability (although you seem to see fit to have a go at someone that's had an accident and learnt from it), quite simply everyone is providing advice that will give the same/better results for much less money. :)
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Actually Invader, I believe Fox did make a rather uncalled for comment about the OPs driving. I also believe he has stated that he is looking at winter tyres!

What makes me laugh is that the poor guy was only looking into making his missus safer and is following the advice given to him and he is still getting grief off you all!
 
InvaderGIR said:
But Fox's comment was in jest...but nobody seems to ever pick up on these things. :/
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Then perhaps Fox should use emoticons after his comments or write them differently because over the few months I've been reading these forums I've seen quite a few people take him the wrong way :) Tbh, I took it as a bitchy comment too!

[TW]Fox;13018486 said:
After about 50 posts of 'I need a huge massive car so it doesnt matter if we crash' :) It wasn't exactly an out of the blue thing :p
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But surely you can see why he was a bit narked! It wasn't his fault he seemed to have to explain it 50 times because people didn't seem to read it the first time :D
 
I'm still standing by my legacy choice :D

A bit of power and reliability!

Example

and this one comes with a strange device in the boot for removing the snow due to vibrations it can only be assumed!

Aero
 
St0rmer66 said:
I know Honda CRV's are really cheap now. Not sure if they're any good though!
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They're front wheel drive until you lose grip then the back kicks in. Good fun actually, dirt cheap, so I regularly punt cyclists off and drive into other motorists if they get in the way. The fuel bill is a bit keen, expect 22-23mpg at best, drops below 20 around town.

Fog
 
[TW]Fox;13016177 said:
Am I the only person who is concerned people will buy cars so they can be not bothered if they crash? Seems a bit of a cavalier attitude :eek:
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Probably not, but I can honestly say it's never even crossed my mind :/

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Re-read your post and now I see what you mean :D I'm the opposite in that case, safety has never come into my mind when choosing a car.
 
LOL! Should have seen Tom trying to fit in the drivers seat in Southampton.

Anywho, I don't care how safe it is to crash, I don't want to crash.
 
Get a Hilux or LandCruiser.

But i reckon you would easily get away with a Soft Roader such as a Subaru Forester.

It doesnt need to be big to get through a bit of mud, Just remember that.
 
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