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Check Your 4090's 12vhpwr Connectors To Make Sure They are in Pristine Condition

EastCoastHandle said:
I find it rather disheartening that some actually believe that the customer is to blame for all of this. That some how, some way, they no longer have the sense knowledge to know how to connect a simple plug into a socket correctly. Yet they were able to do that with their motherboards, gpus and other perhiphals for decades now. Yet, I've not seen any mega threads on mass discussing revisions and work arounds to get those type of connectors to work.

It's as if a strawman was created to be knocked down. All I can say is keep knocking that strawman down. Keep knocking it down.
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The same folks are just deniers because they invest with their emotional ego's.
They don't care and would still think this way even faced with evidence, no intelligence.

Same happened with RX 5700 series driver problems, we were "Nvidia fan boy trolls or we have no clue how to work a PC".
 
EastCoastHandle said:
Agreed. And although I've read that PCI-SEG has submitted change(s). Will that actually fix it? And how long will people have to wait for the revised adapter/connectors?

Meanwhile, the complaints keep piling up.


https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/yqloou/brand_new_4090_tuf_connector_peeled_on_the/
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As per previous page showing the connector doesn't properly
EastCoastHandle said:
I find it rather disheartening that some actually believe that the customer is to blame for all of this. That some how, some way, they no longer have the sense knowledge to know how to connect a simple plug into a socket correctly. Yet they were able to do that with their motherboards, gpus and other perhiphals for decades now. Yet, I've not seen any mega threads on mass discussing revisions and work arounds to get those type of connectors to work.

It's as if a strawman was created to be knocked down. All I can say is keep knocking that strawman down. Keep knocking it down.
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I'm not blaming the customer, I'm saying the connector doesn't fit because it's poorly designed so don't be surprised if you see more Asus Tuf cards burnt up with Nvidia connectors
 
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EastCoastHandle said:
I find it rather disheartening that some actually believe that the customer is to blame for all of this. That some how, some way, they no longer have the sense knowledge to know how to connect a simple plug into a socket correctly. Yet they were able to do that with their motherboards, gpus and other perhiphals for decades now. Yet, I've not seen any mega threads on mass discussing revisions and work arounds to get those type of connectors to work.

It's as if a strawman was created to be knocked down. All I can say is keep knocking that strawman down. Keep knocking it down.
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You trying to say there aren’t numbers of user committed errors, even among experienced builders? I think it wouldn’t be incorrect to say that we have all made silly mistakes, things haven’t been plugged in etc.

With a connector that is new to most, there is definitely a capacity for some mistakes to be made.
 
Intel says it wants that smoke, they will use the 12+4 pin HWPR connector

videocardz.com

Intel adopts 12VHPWR connector for its Data Center GPU Max 1100 PCIe series - VideoCardz.com

12VHPWR is no longer an exclusive to NVIDIA The company behind the ATX 3.0 specs adopts the new power connector. Data Center GPU Max 1100 GPU with 12VHPWR connector, Source: Intel The so-called PCIe Gen5 or 16-pin or 12VHPWR power connector is not technically a requirement for ATX 3.0 power...
videocardz.com videocardz.com
 
And having fretted about this for a couple of weeks, I've come to the conclusion that... I'm going to stop fretting about it.

My Inno3D has been in since the day after launch. The connector clicked home nicely. I've had zero problems. Most of the reported problems have come relatively soon after installation. There's obviously a problem here, and even if "user error" ends up as the problem, that just shows the design tolerances were wrong. But this isn't looking like "something that could happen to every 4090 eventually" but rather "something that happens in odd and specific circumstances we can't isolate".

Edit: And yes, I'm well aware that the above is a very good example of "famous last words".
 
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EastCoastHandle said:
I find it rather disheartening that some actually believe that the customer is to blame for all of this. That some how, some way, they no longer have the sense knowledge to know how to connect a simple plug into a socket correctly. Yet they were able to do that with their motherboards, gpus and other perhiphals for decades now. Yet, I've not seen any mega threads on mass discussing revisions and work arounds to get those type of connectors to work.

It's as if a strawman was created to be knocked down. All I can say is keep knocking that strawman down. Keep knocking it down.
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Other connectors usually are build with a bigger margin for error, making user error less impactful if and when it happens. The 12vhpwr is cutting it pretty close
 
arknor said:
plug it in properly you pillocks!

Those soft genz hands make it hard, so ask your dad or your mum.
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That's it, just ug it in....
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Push harder and see what you get...
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arknor said:
how does plastic cover the pin though? they would be moulded before the pins are put in
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The process seems different than other common molex connectors. It was explained in one of the reddit threads.

The biggest issue in my my view is the mode of failure. As a service tech, everything breaks in my world. But *how* things fail is very important and these new connectors fail terribly.
 
Corsair are also doing a much better cable similar to cable mods. I wouldn’t touch the NV adapter for the aesthetics alone, never mind the quality.
 
So yesterday decided to check mine , noticed one side wasn't full flush so made sure it was, now in msfs the card seems to be used a lot more, could be coincidence but makes you think, also it seems to be easy not to fit it properly (asus tuf by the way)
 
Rogueywon said:
And having fretted about this for a couple of weeks, I've come to the conclusion that... I'm going to stop fretting about it.

My Inno3D has been in since the day after launch. The connector clicked home nicely. I've had zero problems. Most of the reported problems have come relatively soon after installation. There's obviously a problem here, and even if "user error" ends up as the problem, that just shows the design tolerances were wrong. But this isn't looking like "something that could happen to every 4090 eventually" but rather "something that happens in odd and specific circumstances we can't isolate".

Edit: And yes, I'm well aware that the above is a very good example of "famous last words".
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Much the same as yourself TBH.

However, I’ve ordered a CableMod 4 x 8 PCIE cable partly for peace of mind but also to tidy up the awful 4 x 8 PCIE cables I’ve already got as they have those daisy chain plugs on them too and they’re interfering with the airflow.

Will be a lot clearer once the cable is swapped but having only ordered it a couple of days ago I fully expect it to take weeks to turn up.
 
Grim5 said:
Intel says it wants that smoke, they will use the 12+4 pin HWPR connector

videocardz.com

Intel adopts 12VHPWR connector for its Data Center GPU Max 1100 PCIe series - VideoCardz.com

12VHPWR is no longer an exclusive to NVIDIA The company behind the ATX 3.0 specs adopts the new power connector. Data Center GPU Max 1100 GPU with 12VHPWR connector, Source: Intel The so-called PCIe Gen5 or 16-pin or 12VHPWR power connector is not technically a requirement for ATX 3.0 power...
videocardz.com videocardz.com
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It would be hard for Intel not to use it.

Intel helped design it.
 
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