If he loved the club why would he keep sacking managers
Pretty obvious isn't it? He thinks with his heart and not his head, not unlike many fans.
CHELSEA Manager Ancelotti leaves Chelsea
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Pretty obvious isn't it? He thinks with his heart and not his head, not unlike many fans.
I doubt that many Chelsea fans wanted to see the back of Ancelotti, I may be wrong but I doubt it.
Maybe so but I don't think any of us fans have committed to the same financial outlay that he has. He's spent large sums of his own money and it has skewed his judgement such that he expects results consistently and quickly. This has been our worst season since he bought the club, he's sacked managers for far less. If Ancelotti had brought home just the carling cup, he probably would have kept his job.
An you know that for certain how?
Every team was below par this season, Chelsea would have won far more imo if they had stuck with a manager for the long term rather than chopping and changing whenever he feels like it.
If it is to be believed that RA has the say on who is signed and who isn't you can't really blame the manager when things go **** up. The sooner he gets a manager in that he likes and they can stay in the job for longer than 2 years and have, you know, a say in what happens on the pitch then Chelsea will be all the better for it.
Heart or ego? Does he love Chelsea or does he love owning a football club and does he want the ego boost that owning a successful side brings?
Surly if all he wanted was a ego boost all he would have to do is look at his fleet of yachts.
Common knowledge (also a good source who works at A.C. Milan).
The same thing happened when RA wanted his friend Andriy Shevchenko to play at Chelsea - he went out and brought him even though the manager didn't want him.
Taking bets on MO'N taking over
MON strikes me as the sort who wouldn't put up with the setup at Chelsea, Chairman buying marquee players he doesn't want etc. He's the sort who will walk away if he isn't happy, such as how he left Villa, and (if rumours are to be believed) turned down the WHU job late in the day as he didn't like the way it was being handled.
If he loved the club why would he keep sacking managers
Phase 1. Sack Manager
Phase 2. ?
Phase 3. Profit
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Yeah, Abramovich is doing a epically horrible job, firing the previous manager and getting in Ancelloti failed, as have his previous hirings and firings.
Personally I don't think Ancelloti really had them playing their best. The drop in form happened before Wilkins left, and stopped without him there. The football they were playing wasn't really the style the owner wants, he paid for it so not really sure why its not ok to find the right manager for him. He can find the right players, no one cares if a club keeps trying to find better players, but trying to find the right manager is awful?
Don't think Ancelloti did particularly well to intergrate Torres, he decided to help Torres get up to speed by changing the formation and strike partner pretty much every game, so no one else was playing well. Chelsea can play 4-4-2 fine, Drogba/torres with Anelka on the wing where he's been good for Chelsea(and miles better than Malouda or Ramires stuck out there).
This isn't Hull with a crap team and no resources firing a guy for doing as well as can be expected, this is a team with almost unlimited resources being handed almost a blank cheque and being asked to produce both successful football and attacking "beautiful" football. Money talks, the best managers are available to him, why can't he change up?
As for Wilkins, hasn't it been said that he was mostly brought in as a translator and was basically not needed(and probably not liked by Abramovich?). Judging by his move into insanely generic commentary, and absolutely misreading the game frequently, on TV he comes across as next to useless. Knows all the players, they like him, thats about where it seemed to end.
As for a replacement, Hughes, he brought in a lot of quality at City, he gelled them together, most of the good things about City were installed by Hughes, who turned them into a 4/5th place team from nothing. Bought a lot of the right players(and some wrong) and he's been doing very well at Fulham, again with several smart buys. Handles pressure like almost no other manager in the league, sorts out both the defence and offence, gets both working well. Hasn't had an issue keeping more ackward/mouthy players under control, plus it would be funny if Hughes could beat Mancini to the title next season
Personally I don't think Ancelloti really had them playing their best. The drop in form happened before Wilkins left, and stopped without him there. The football they were playing wasn't really the style the owner wants, he paid for it so not really sure why its not ok to find the right manager for him. He can find the right players, no one cares if a club keeps trying to find better players, but trying to find the right manager is awful?
Don't think Ancelloti did particularly well to intergrate Torres, he decided to help Torres get up to speed by changing the formation and strike partner pretty much every game, so no one else was playing well. Chelsea can play 4-4-2 fine, Drogba/torres with Anelka on the wing where he's been good for Chelsea(and miles better than Malouda or Ramires stuck out there).
This isn't Hull with a crap team and no resources firing a guy for doing as well as can be expected, this is a team with almost unlimited resources being handed almost a blank cheque and being asked to produce both successful football and attacking "beautiful" football. Money talks, the best managers are available to him, why can't he change up?
As for Wilkins, hasn't it been said that he was mostly brought in as a translator and was basically not needed(and probably not liked by Abramovich?). Judging by his move into insanely generic commentary, and absolutely misreading the game frequently, on TV he comes across as next to useless. Knows all the players, they like him, thats about where it seemed to end.
As for a replacement, Hughes, he brought in a lot of quality at City, he gelled them together, most of the good things about City were installed by Hughes, who turned them into a 4/5th place team from nothing. Bought a lot of the right players(and some wrong) and he's been doing very well at Fulham, again with several smart buys. Handles pressure like almost no other manager in the league, sorts out both the defence and offence, gets both working well. Hasn't had an issue keeping more ackward/mouthy players under control, plus it would be funny if Hughes could beat Mancini to the title next season
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I feel sorry for Carlo, hope he stays in England, I like the bloke
Sadly Abramovich has turned a well respected and pretty untouchable figure at a much bigger club Milan into someone who's looked resigned to his fate for a good number of months now
Had it not been for their late title push/Arsenal's yearly collapse he may well have gone earlier than now
I think he would have done tbh, winning the double counts for nothing it seems in West London.
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6 years of winning nothing and making same mistakes time after time yet Anchelloti has one yes ONE bad season( a better season then arsenal actualy) and still get the sack yet wenger's job is safe? how come? complete rubbish imo.
out of the two managers its Wenger that should get the sack not Anchellotti.
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Maybe he could take Wenger's job and keep jonneymendoza happy then he'd still only have to change his commute a little bit.
McCarthy managed to keep Wolves up, one of my housemates was explaining it in an almost minute by minute account last night - he's a Wolves fan. You're probably right that this is about as good as it gets from him though.
It's a thread about Ancelotti's sacking rather than one about if Wenger should be sacked so I found it slightly amusing that pretty much every post you made was about Wenger. Maybe it is time that Wenger moved on but if he's managed to keep Arsenal there or thereabouts for 6 years while on a limited budget (that's pretty much the crux of the argument) then it seems he's done a good job, if there's money there and he's congenitally unwilling to spend it and improve the team to move from competing to actually winning then perhaps he needs to go.
As long as they keep getting paid massive amounts I am fairly certain not one player will want to leave
Ancelotti's managerial performance this season has simply been further below par than his performance last season was above par. The bad essentially outweighs the good in that instance, and the club obviously felt keeping in him charge would mean a continuation of the downward spiral Chelsea have been in since October (and have never gotten out of, despite some improved results in March / April).
It's not a terrible decision by any stretch of the imagination. For a club with the expectations that Roman has for them, a season like the one Chelsea have had (performance-wise more than results, as second isn't that bad, but the football was bottom-of-the-table quality) is simply unacceptable and they obviously held Ancelotti accountable.
If anything, the double-winning team did a lot of the work itself (you can't pick out many games in that season where you'd say "oh, the manager got it spot on" as we have in the past with Jose and SAF), as well as being the same side Hiddink worked wonders to rejuvenate, and this season when Ancelotti's managerial ability was really called upon, he failed on every occasion.
It's not a terrible decision by any stretch of the imagination. For a club with the expectations that Roman has for them, a season like the one Chelsea have had (performance-wise more than results, as second isn't that bad, but the football was bottom-of-the-table quality) is simply unacceptable and they obviously held Ancelotti accountable.
If anything, the double-winning team did a lot of the work itself (you can't pick out many games in that season where you'd say "oh, the manager got it spot on" as we have in the past with Jose and SAF), as well as being the same side Hiddink worked wonders to rejuvenate, and this season when Ancelotti's managerial ability was really called upon, he failed on every occasion.
This.
Another manager on the Chelsea merry go round, soon to be overtaken by Man City wonder who the chairman will sack then? The average players would be a better idea than a good coach.