Yes I forgot about the well known group of Pakistani Mormons, they were pink I think?
I think you'll find that when people refer to Pakistan they are referring to Pakistanis, Muslim and non white. Had this been Africa then the diversity would have needed to be highlighted. In other words you are arguing about nothing.
I didn't realise the men were from Pakistan, in fact i can pretty much guarantee you they are all British born and bred. Secondly apart from their Muslim sounding names what makes you say they are Muslim? That’s like saying anyone with the name Michael is Christian. Thirdly what does their race have to do with the crime committed, as mentioned by many others the huge ring of "white" English celebrities are rarely, if ever, described as such?
*drenched I think
Adding pointless superlatives to your comment doesn't make it true, it would be like me saying your post was outrageous homophobic gibberish, it would have no basis in fact and would just have been added to puff out a weak case.
If my post contained homophobic gibberish then it would contain such, your post was full of bigoted views, that's a fact.
Oh you mean crediting sources like this in the original post: " they were all in a documentary made by a Pakistani guy investigating this problem in his own community."
yeh, I can see with reading skills like yours that one would have slipped by...
Maybe you don’t understand what a source means.... as simply saying "in a documentary made by a Pakistani guy" doesn’t = a source. Secondly these were your interpretations of said vague documentary, not in fact what the documentary said. Clear distinctions, do you comprehend?.
Perhaps that hadn't come to light at the time of the documentary? Point noted though.
Then perhaps you should do some research of your own before regurgitating as fact what *apparently* said documentary said. It's not difficult.
You might want to check your facts on that one, it might be frowned upon at your family gatherings but that wasn't the impression given when he interviewed some Pakistani teenagers. Basically they were all ****s in their eyes.
Are you seriously trying to suggest the views of a few Pakistani teenagers, who could barely string a sentence together, represent the views of an entire race of people? Surely you can’t be that stupid? It's like me saying the "muslamic ray gans" EDL member represents the views of all English people in this country, however it "might be frowned upon at your family gatherings"...
This in a nutshell is how stupid your argument is.
Care to point at one such couple? Outside professional couples who have a bit more social freedom, I know a lot of same culture marriages but not one single mixed one.
Or are you seriously going to tell me that Pakistanis and Indians are not racist toward white people when it comes to marriage?
Again this is just insane stupidity i can’t even comprehend
There are thousands of mixed raced couples, i personally know of a handful within my own small community. "Outside professional couples" and now you’re putting stipulations on something you stated as fact a short while ago.
Is there prejudice within Asian communities regarding whom they marry, of course there is, like there is within the English community or any other community around the world. Are you saying that some English aren’t racist towards Asian people when it comes to marriage?
A quick story for you. I was friendly with a Hindu family for a while and hung out with their youngest son (now a top model photographer I think). His sister started showing an interest in me which was OK until her older brothers noticed. I was told in no uncertain terms that this interest was unwelcome by her family.
Same thing happened years later with a Hindu girl I worked with, dating white people was not allowed. I'll admit I didn't have the balls to ask the African girl, not after she told me what the reaction would be
And this has what do with your statement "No Pakastani guy would be allowed by his family to marry a white girl"
Which you have pretty much all ready admitted is a crock of **** with you above statement "Outside professional couples" There’s bound to be racism within every community including your own but that would not make a statement by me true as such "no English guy would be allowed by his family to marry a Asian girl" Now your rambling on about personal experiences you’ve had and applying it to entire races of people. I know of incidents of Asians being chased off by English families, difference being it doesn’t really make me want to make incorrect, bigoted and broad statements though.
See this is where you just get silly, my written English apart from the odd typo is pretty good and everyone here can see that, so pretending otherwise is pointless and makes you look a little petty.
I find it amusing that it was you who started all this "you can’t read" nonsense and petty remarks about using double spaces line / explanations of big words etc and now are playing the victim card
Secondly don’t speak for everyone else, you seem to do that a lot and thirdly i disagree, your structuring and grammar are atrocious. But that’s beside the point.
So anyone who uses the words white, Pakistani and Muslim in a thread specifically about Pakistani Muslims raping white girls - is a racist?
If the thread is geared towards being bigoted proven by the fact it started off with "all foreign again" especially when it's painfully oblivious in the last few months pretty much all news has been around "white" English celebrities and other "white" English pedo's / rapists, then yes.
There’s a difference between using words and bombarding pretty much every sentence with mentioning of race/religion/colour though, when none of the above have anything to do with the crime itself. Which of course you will argue against, but unsurprisingly it’s something you will selectively argue when the accused are of ethnic minorities. Along with the fact of the absurd and provable lies you were spouting, all add to my opinion of you.
You logic is amazing.
I mean that in a bad way, just in case you struggled with the double meaning there.
Your insults are pointless and make you look a little petty (sound familiar) the logic is really simple, overuse and concentration on ethnicity along with complete fabrications regarding a certain race, doesn’t really trouble the logic of any rational person.
Why should I want to cover anything? If I want to post something then I darn well post it. Go read my other 4,000 posts and see if that is not true if you like.
Well you clearly tried and conceded that your comments might appear racist, hence "anyone wanting to call these points (or me) racist"
and then put them on some apparent documentary with no links, and forgot to mention that all of above was simply your interpretation of said documentary
Not forgetting the views expressed were of your own and not that of the documentary considering you have already admitted you have based and stated facts, based off your opinion of what a few spotty teenagers said, and then applied to entire races of people
If any
culture has serious issues that stem directly from its Patriarchal and Misogynist view of women (not to mention the retarded nonsense that derives from the Stone Age Religion of Peace and ritual beheadings) then I'm happy to point that out to you.
I'll even drag out the names of all the top Pakistani Imams who have some bat****insane ideas about all of the above, so let's not pretend we are talking about a supposed minority within Islam here
If you think I'm bothered about their melatonin pigment levels, then we are on the wrong page, sorry about that.
A response most used by people who do not wish to respond to the points therein, and as these points were originally made by a Pakistani Journalist then I'd like to think they were made without self internalised racial prejudice and were a true (if clearly uncomfortable to you) representation about a modern British community.
I see you are trying your hardest to interlink simple paedophilia, gangs and rape to religion/culture, which just goes to show your true intentions. It’s unsurprising that people of all walks of life commit such crimes without stemming directly from religion or their race which you choose to ignore. Given the past few months have been pretty much all incidents involving "white" English males including that of April Jones and Mark Bridger which were sexually motivated as are most incidents involving paedophilia/rape rather than some strange link to religion you appear to be grasping at. Even forgetting pretty much all cases are derived from sexual desires or for financial gain, as evidence in this particular oxford case. But hey don’t let the facts get in your way.
The fact that you do not wish to comment upon what he says, says a lot about your own desire to cover up and make excuses for that community. A fact born out by most of your other evasive replies in this thread.
I don’t know what he says as all I’ve heard is what you think of what he says and your views on the views of a few teenage boys
In fact its goes to show your intent rather than mine, using the abuse of poor children to further your bigoted agenda. Rather pathetic really.
