Because there is nothing in the English/Christian/Atheist culture that condones child abuse (unlike Islam), and where it does happen it's down to the abuse of power, not to fulfil a fetish of abusing underage white girls.
Witness the reaction to any child abuse case reported in the UK media - mob hysteria and a universal desire to kill the perpetrator.
What's the reaction in the Pakistani communities where this took place - embarrassment.
Well English culture is partly/mostly derived from Christianity, which is full of all sorts of nasties including rape/murder and pretty much anything else. So when “English” people abuse underage girls it’s to fulfil a paedophilic fetish but when Asian people do the same its not because of these same desires but one of religious instruction? lol
And what has been the UK media stance on these cases? Has it not been similar?
Can you please provide some evidence to back up these claims? As this suggests otherwise.
“Lord Nazir Ahmed, a leading Muslim politician of Pakistani descent, and many other members of the British-Pakistani community, have condemned the crimes”
How do you know what the Pakistani community reactions were in these communities, for all we know they are disgusted as you or i. Has anyone been round to ask them how they feel? When Mark Bridger was charged with sexual rape and murder of April Jones did any ask any random English person living with 3 square miles of the incident, how they felt?
Finally regarding “mob hysteria and a universal desire to kill the perpetrator” maybe you missed the mass nationwide protests regarding rape in India, where mobs in there thousands were demanding blood or the actual death sentences handed down in Pakistan for rapists as this one
“A Pakistani court has awarded the death sentence to a man for raping his 15-year-old daughter.”
Really, so if white people do it, we should stop making such a fuss when other groups do it? The two cases are different, white pedos generally don't have a racist agenda.
How about you treat them equally instead of having one law (standards) for your own and another for others. Pedo’s doesn’t usually have a racist agenda, they are pedo’s after all. And what about the “white” Paedo’s in other foreign countries, do you know they pretty much target 99% of the local population for example British Pedo men in Cambodia usually target Cambodian girls. Hmm are they targeting them for racist motives or maybe that’s what they have to work with?
Because it is clearly irrelevant? It's no longer online so what use would further info be?
Since you based your entire post off it and even said it was a source for the claims, i think most would see it as relevant.
One girl too many though for your claims
So they are crazies when they get noticed, but otherwise they are revered and holy leaders otherwise - nice cop out for Islam that isn't it?
That's wearing a bit thin given that these people teach other Muslims about faith and are passing on the same ideas, yet nobody within Islam does anything to stop them. To me that's tacit approval.
In fact at the top level of Islam within Pakistan there are Imams saying some pretty nasty stuff, yet they are never called crazy.
That’s usually how it works though doesn’t it? You can’t call someone a crazy if they haven’t said or done anything crazy…. You know like Mr Fritzel was probably a valued member of his community until people found out what he had been up to, that’s how it usually works. What are you doing to stop Pastor Jones, Nick Griffin or any other nastie piece of work? Nothing or do you simply distance yourself from people like that?
Those are all quotes from the Old Testament, ha ha
Because it’s the Old Testament it’s somehow no longer relevant?
LOL, and this is our culture publicly rejecting such ideas as soon as they were made aware of it:
"From the Diocese of Chichester
In respect of Bishop Wallace Benn’s endorsement of Britain in Sin he has issued the following statement.
Having now read the contents of this booklet in full I want to completely and absolutely dissociate myself from it."
No one cultural leader rejected it, the other supported it and ran with it. They both are leaders within your community
What does an ongoing legal case in Kansas, USA have to do with the UK?
How hypocritical, you can post quotes of random crazies all over the world, none of them from the UK but I can’t do the same? How fitting, goes nicely with the double standards you have set within the rest of your arguments.
OK then I will, first hit on google:
"Christian Girls Gang Raped in Egypt to Screams of ‘Allahu Akbar!’"
next hit:
"Muslim rape gang attack Christian girl"
Guess you missed the rest
“Christian pastor has been arrested in a Rio suburb for the alleged rape of six women”
“Utah teacher has been accused of raping a female student from the Riverton High School,”
But keep your blinkers on
All the other subsequent hits are Christians offering support to rape victims, I would like to see some Imams offering girls some support too, but as my previous post shows they are too busy trying to justify raping girls under Islam.
With support like this
“Christian Street Preacher Shouts “You Deserve Rape” at College” 
Embarrassing
OK, lots of hits about a psychopath, then:
"British man gets away with raping 13 yr-old because he’s Muslim"
Got anything else you'd like me to Google?
Yep lots and lots of hits, in fact 86 million hits but trust you to find some with “muslim” in it and to ignore everything else. Even one of your leaders “British deputy speaker held for rape of two men” was mentioned, but i guess you missed that
Yes, it's called paedophilia, it is a psychiatric disorder, not a cultural trait
What so Asians can’t have this same psychiatric disorder simply because they are Asians, this must be some ground breaking scientific discovery you have unveiled there!
Did you know paedophilia is legal in Muslim Saudi Arabia?
Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/12/saudi.child.marriage/
Saudi girl, eight, married off to 58-year-old is denied divorce
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/23/saudi-arabia-human-rights
Seems like child abuse is an accepted part of the culture in some parts of the Muslim world.
Like you said to me earlier, did you read anything but the title?
“Senior clerics, including Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's grand mufti, have denounced child marriage.” hmme
What like this woman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dead-ancestors-told-enjoys-meal-new-wife.html
Appears there problems in some parts of the Christian world too.
This is actually part of the problem, they memorise the Koran, set up a school and that is about as legit as it gets within Islam, hence you have a bunch of crazy people teaching kids on how to be crazy. They then come to the UK and repeat the process. Islam is an uncontrolled religion without proper peer review, and as such is dangerous to a western culture.
It is? That’s news to me. Like learning the bible and setting up a church of your own? Mr Pastor Jones anyone….
So you actually going to address the point? Guessing you agree with what I said then.
No, sorry, it is mostly a S.Asian way of controlling women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing
Pakistan
...typically the work of husbands against their wives who have "dishonored them".
...the number of acid throwing victims to be as high 400-750 per year
...Motivation behind acid assaults range from marriage proposal rejections to religious fundamentalism.
Bangladesh
...such attacks are relatively common, they are mostly a form of domestic violence
..82% of acid attack survivors in Bangladesh are women
Do you see a pattern yet?
The young English teen didn’t sound very Asian to me Seems the reasons you offered were similar to the ones the British Teenager gave, how strange that they don’t share a common religion. You know the whole controlling women stuff, the British lad thought his girl was cheating on him.
That is the whole point of the thread though? That Islamic culture mixed with the originating countries, is a serious mismatch for British culture. If you worked on fixing all this instead of sticking your head in the sand and blaming it all on racism, then nobody in the UK would have a problem. If muticultralism is going to work, you are going to have to leave all this misogynist crap at the door and kick out all the Imams who give you religous permission to rape girls.
We can't do it, it takes the UK government over 10 years to get rid of one single sodding Terrorist. Sort your house out or stop whining when Muslims are once again headline news..
Lol so you think the thread is about making derogatory comments about Islam and that is pretty much all you have been doing. Kind of makes sense why you make little sense now that we know your true intentions. Which imams? All the “imams” you posted quotes from are not in the UK, where do you wish for them to be kicked out to? Shall we also start kicking out random BNP members and NF’s too since they also harbour distasteful views? You know if multiculturism is to work and all. How about you sort your own glass house first, before throwing stones.
How does comparing countries help?
As it’s fundamental to your argument, can’t you see? You think it’s a cultural issue where Asian men don’t rape Asian girls because of they are culturally obliged not to, but these same Asian men do it elsewhere where this apparent culture originated. Does this culture only magically appear when these men get on a plane heading to the UK?
Secondly you’ve been comparing other countries, so called imams from other countries all thread long, I see this is another one of your double standards.
We don't pretend to be above all that, white people use prostitutes and we have a few laws to make sure the non users are not disturbed.
Islamic countries have a two faced approach, on the one hand it's bad and banned completely, but if you jump through this religious hoop it's OK, or if you are Saudi just come to London and have whatever depraved time you like, we won't tell.
What like the hoops we have here? Street prostitution bad but indoors is OK, nice hola hoops. Furthermore you’ve pretty much skipped over the meat of the point and have focused on useless stuff. You know the point Asian men use prostitutes because they cant date, and me pointing out prostitution takes place all over the world including Western countries
In the 70's? I doubt if there were anything other than white kids. The point was he abused boys as well.
What point? There is no point. Please provide evidence that Saville was indiscriminate in ethnicity as you claimed. Secondly you just hit the nail on the head, yes in the 70s the majority were white vulnerable kids. As it is the same today, the majority are white vulnerable kids. Thanks for proving my point.
In many Islamic countries child marriages are common practice, so sorry it is cultural.
I just posted facts regarding the legal consenting ages of countries universally, do I believe the facts or your word on the matter? In fact Pakistan is the same as the UK regarding legal marriage age.
Are you going to deny it is a factor? It is accepted as a factor in the Catholic abuse issue. It's a factor in single white men using prostitutes.
By having cultural/religious restrictions on people, Catholics and Muslims create problems for themselves, particularly when they are dumped into an oversexualised western culture.
I never knew it was a factor, people use prostitutes universally for mainly one reason, sexual desire regardless of a common religion.
Ok let’s put it this way, if for example a young Asian man was so devout he refused to date women why would he all of a sudden decide to use prostitutes? Why not just date women if you’re willing to go against your religion. Secondly these men who commited the crimes were born and brought up in this overly sexualised culture, they were not immigrants. Thirdly married men, including the like of superstars like Wayne Rooney, who can have any women they want, use prostitutes. Kind of on thin ice here.
Do you honestly feel like comparing the history and rights of rape victims in the UK versus any Islamic country or culture?
Might sound familiar since they are your words, why are we comparing countries here? What did your community do to stop Saville? Why do you expect random Asian communities to stop something they have no relationship with to do something you didn’t? And as I mentioned above how do you know what the reaction of the Asian community was in oxford that differed from your apparent reactions? Answer is you don’t basically know.
Ask anyone in here what they would do if they heard their Uncle was raping underage Pakistani girls. I very much doubt it would be "sit on their hands for fear of shaming their family"
What you mean like the numerous of “english” grandmothers/mothers/girlfriends have done when the males in their lives, whether it be boyfriends/fathers etc have been abusing young children in their households. Would you like me to post some links? These people didn’t exactly react how you suggest they would. Why don’t you ask anyone here what they would do if they heard their uncle was raping underage English girls, I’d suggest the reaction would in fact be similar. Amusing just in the headlines countless people knew what Saville and his English buddies were up to but they did indeed “sit on their hands”
How do people find drug dealers? Somebody has to be a customer.
Customers usually don’t like to “grass” on their suppliers, you know as they need these suppliers.. You know like when the majority white pedo networks share, sell indecent images, their customers don’t exactly go running to the police and say “hey I bought pedo pictures for my personal pleasure, but go arrest that guy” I don’t think you actually realise how this works. I doubt they are pimping out underage girls at their local kebab shops/
You are comparing organised prostitution with what one man does in his bedroom? OK.
Yes the key is the word “organised”, they are not doing it in plain sight are they? Unless you think the local communities have a spider sense they can’t really do much now can they. Maybe more appropriate, what did your community do over the last 4 decades whilst saviile and his “organised” ring a fellow abusers were abusing children? Let me guess, nothing. Your community waited till he was dead, then did something about it. What did your community do to stop
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...finitely-attacks-nursery-school-children.html
these English paedophile gang members?
Yes, please do,
but leave all this crap out, I'm sick of it. It's like discussing anything with Bhavv before he was permabanned.
Have done so, and fair enough but to be fair lets not forget you started the abuse. May have got carried away a little so apologies from me
I'm pretty much done with this thread as its like trying to talk sense into Cheats before he was permmad, you share similar views with him and it's become (should have realised 3 pages back tbh) that your not here to debate/share views, but have had an agenda from the start, which you admitted to above
"That is the whole point of the thread though?" and in which you have succeeded.
Am i not allowed to point out factual inconsistencies crucial to your arguments?
