Child support...

Kennysevenfold · 16 May 2009 at 01:35

arknor said:
neither is beeing a father which is all he cares about, not mature or responsible enough to have sex.

he probably isnt on speaking terms with the mother because he found out she was pregant and thought he was best of out of it.

hasnt told his parents because hes hiding....

MAN UP FFS! im suprised everyone seems to be on your side

Man up.? did you read the OP.?

arknor · 16 May 2009 at 01:35

magick said:
You've obviously never had a women try and entrap you with a child you don't want.

keep it in your pants or use a condom & spermicidal lube :confused:

magick · 16 May 2009 at 01:37

arknor said:
keep it in your pants or use a condom & spermicidal lube

agree entirely but in life it doesn't always work like that.

Dazzy_G · 16 May 2009 at 01:38

I'm just saying, save your soon to be student self £400 and wait a month, its not like anything you do now is going to matter when she takes you to court

magick · 16 May 2009 at 01:40

Kenny I know this is a personal question but how well do you know this girl and what's the chance she may have had close encounters with other men?

Kennysevenfold · 16 May 2009 at 01:46

magick said:
Kenny I know this is a personal question but how well do you know this girl and what's the chance she may have had close encounters with other men?

i knew her for like a week, so theres brobebly a high chance she has been with other men

Energize · 16 May 2009 at 01:49

Then there's not really any reason to believe anything she says.

Kennysevenfold · 16 May 2009 at 01:50

Energize said:
Then there's not really any reason to believe anything she says.

God i hope so, the passed month has been actual hell. not got a clue what to do.!

magick · 16 May 2009 at 01:50

Kennysevenfold said:
i knew her for like a week, so theres brobebly a high chance she has been with other men

My advice would be to tell her you want proof that you'r the father.

EDIT : And let her sort out the costs of the test.

Kennysevenfold · 16 May 2009 at 01:53

magick said:
My advice would be to tell her you want proof that you'r the father.

EDIT : And let her sort of costs of the test.

yeah i could

though if the kid is mine, what can she take then if the csa cant take my student loan or bursary.?

Gackt · 16 May 2009 at 01:53

Yes, don't sign anything until you have proof that you are the father. And if not, then tell her to go **** herself.

magick · 16 May 2009 at 01:56

Kennysevenfold said:
yeah i could

though if the kid is mine, what can she take then if the csa cant take my student loan or bursary.?

As far as i'm aware CSA is pretty easy to dodge. Though they will probably catch up with you eventualy if you stay in the same town/city.

EDIT

as for what they can take, you get means tested and a court decides.

arknor · 16 May 2009 at 01:57

Kennysevenfold said:
yeah i could

though if the kid is mine, what can she take then if the csa cant take my student loan or bursary.?

csa will rape your wages at a later date to make up for your student years

csa are also greedy which is why most people try to avoid them and come to an arrangement with the woman

Rich1988 · 16 May 2009 at 02:12

just ignore her, if you were only together for a little while theres no reason to believe its yours!
*probably not the mature course of action*

I_M_Weasel · 16 May 2009 at 08:13

you'll pay 15%(extra 5% for each extra child) but if your income is very low or non existant you'll end up paying a flat £5 charge. Keep them informed of any changes to your income or you may find yourself with some back payments to make.
And as others have said, make sure the child is yours. You'll probably end up paying for it (paternaty test) if the child is yours. Speak to a family law soliciter, can be expensive but the costs now may save you a fortune over 18 years.

KASM · 16 May 2009 at 09:09

arknor said:
csa will rape your wages at a later date to make up for your student years

So many made up facts from everyone.

Whilst he's in full time employment and not working he'll not have to pay anything ( we the tax payers will pay for everything no doubt )

Once he's in employment and if it's accepted he's the father he will be obliged to pay 15% only of his wages towards the child's upkeep, at no point is this sum backdated to the time he was unable to pay anything.

Of course he can come to a private arrangement with the mother thus negating the use of CMEC ( new name for CSA )

arknor said:
csa are also greedy which is why most people try to avoid them and come to an arrangement with the woman

How are they greedy? do they get a bigger Christmas party if they nail him for an extra £50 a month? lets remember the money they collect goes towards a child he potentially fathered, I don't see why people have such a problem with making parents responsible for their own children, the alternative is that the rest of us, who do take the appropriate precautions end up paying via tax increases, whilst irresponsible fathers and mothers try and dodge the system.

MeatLoaf · 16 May 2009 at 09:16

When my wife and i seperated i was working full time and i was oredered to pay 45% of my take home pay ( for 3 kids ) which came out at over £100 a week.

This left me less than £100 to pay my bills and eat with. Its a stupid system, and because she was on benefits she only saw £10 of what i was paying, the kids didnt see any of it.

I was falling behind on rent and council tax just sao that i could put gas/electric and food on the table.

If we hadnt got back together then i dont know what id have done

MeatLoaf · 16 May 2009 at 09:18

KASM said:
So many made up facts from everyone.

Once he's in employment and if it's accepted he's the father he will be obliged to pay 15% only of his wages towards the child's upkeep, at no point is this sum backdated to the time he was unable to pay anything.

How are they greedy? do they get a bigger Christmas party if they nail him for an extra £50 a month? lets remember the money they collect goes towards a child he potentially fathered, I don't see why people have such a problem with making parents responsible for their own children, the alternative is that the rest of us, who do take the appropriate precautions end up paying via tax increases, whilst irresponsible fathers and mothers try and dodge the system.

Nope even if he isnt the father, if she says he is they will nail him for it, its up to him to prove he is/isnt.

And as ive said above, of all the money i paid in m,aintainance, my wife only got an extra tenner a week. God knows where the other £90 went. No doubt if she was working she would have got it all.

MeatLoaf · 16 May 2009 at 09:20

Another thing to bear in mind as well, is are you going to be having the child overnight? If so the maintainance is reduced according to how many nights you have them, so if you had the child at weekends your maintainance would be reduced by 2/7ths.

singist · 16 May 2009 at 10:27

As has been suggested, get the test done; if the baby is not yours, you have no reponsibility for it, if it is yours, you really had better go out and get a job so that you can support mother and child. I sincerely hope that you come out of this ok and go on to enjoy a long and happy life but having learnt a very important lesson.

Ok, now for the Mr. grumpy bit:-

As for being in full time education, it's a pity that you didn't listen to the bit about contraception ffs!

I find your attitude (and a few others here) very irresposible and blase ...... you are living with your parents, in full time education and may be bringing a child into this world and all you can think of is "I'm ******** it! how much will I have to pay?" You should have thought of that when you were busy in bed, proving that you were a man; you'll notice that I didn't use the term adult. Shame on you for acting so irresponsibly!!!

Despite the above, I wish you well.