Children not allowed squash in school !

I do like that the multiple comments about filtered/mineral/spring water have been ignored by the 'tap water tastes horrible' brigade!

I can only drink bottled water, tap water makes me sick.

The problem I have with banning what is essentially a perfectly healthy alternative to water is that Children will often as not simply not drink anything....remember we are not there to ensure they do and teachers have enough (or should have) to do teaching the children how to read and write...also children as they grow older will rebel, the more you say they cannot have something, the more they want it and the more likely they are to do it behind your back. We should encourage healthy eating in a balanced way, we should not simply place arbitrary rules on what a child should and should not eat...and this goes for Parents as well as Teachers.

Promote a healthy balance rather than force your will.

EDIT: I spoke to a teacher friend at my sons school about what his school does about drinking in the classroom..he says that currently a child can only have water or nothing as it makes the tables sticky if you spill it, but the school next door can have juices and squash as long as it is in a Sports Bottle and that they are doing that as well next term because loads of Parents complained to the Diocese who told the school to be more flexible.
 
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That's really bizarre. Do you know what it is ?

Its related to a operation I had recently which removed part of my stomach (it was damaged) and ever since tap water (and to some extent warm water, although not all the time) makes me sick. No-one really knows why. It doesn't matter as bottled water, particularly very cold water is great.
 
Reading some of the responses in this thread, it's no wonder children are so poorly behaved, lacking discipline and just down right spoilt brats. How do you expect teachers to discipline children when their idiot parents can't get their **** straight.
 
Sorry this was about calories and how you said weight doesn't have an impact on calories and that a cheeseburger was less calories than a sub :rolleyes:

Personally I eat a 12 inch steak and cheese with everything in it and loads of sauce with a large coke and a bag of doritos followed by 3 oat and rasin cookies . Oh with a side of meatballs with my sub.

I haven't been "taken in" by anything , Seems you have thinking McDonalds is better than a subway .

This day and age people will have you believe nothing is good for you . I am normally a healthy person thinking I must take care of my body but since diagnosis in September for something that was not created by anything wrong I have done via diet or lifestyle I am kind of more relaxed about what I eat and drink now .

well they are both as bad as each other but comparatively a fatty disgusting cheeseburger can in some cases be less calories than a sub, quite frankly anyone who eats 800 calories plus in one meal deserves to die a fat death. in any case I wouldnt get paid to eat that rubbish!

nothing the modern food industry has created is good for you, the only thing that will save the obesity epidemic and the environment is a plant based diet (waits for the flame war)
 
Pathetic, I'd have thought parents would be able to decide what their child drinks within reason, not the school? I as a child did not like water, in fact, I still don't like drinking water on it's own and I'm 24.
 
A packed lunch is Sandwiches (white bread) + crisps + chocolate bar + apple + 250ml of Tesco fizzy drink bottle. Eaten in that order, sometimes adding the crisps to the sandwich. I am now 32, 6ft, 12 stone and pretty healthy. I use to squeeze in a can of Pepsi Max between classes in secondary school just for kicks.

That is what I had from my mother (a primary school teacher of 30 years) every school day from age 4 to 16.
 
OMGZ Kids going to die of dehydration if he doesn't drink a gallon of water a day..
What utter ** Please fully star out swearing in future **

I don't remember EVER having a water bottle during the day.
I had a tiny bottle of milk through a straw after the first lesson and that was it.
If I felt thirsty I stuck my head under a tap.

I must say though (as a non parent) I wouldn't be letting the school dictate to me what I should feed my own child that for sure.
Fair enough for the fat kids that get fed burger and chips with a large full fat coke for breakfast by their parents, they do need educating or forcing a bit of edmunucation on them, but for a kid who is active and generally eats well (doesn't smoke or drink alcohol either :D ) then what odds does a bottle of juice make?
I'm ****ing glad I am not growing up in todays world that for sure.
 
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I did read that yes thank you . I also found it on Monday and it was from an American publication I think , I still did not answer if they are allowed to do it or not :(

I can write on here from my bed :D But I haven't contacted the school etc yet as my findings on google did not satisfy me I asked here and still yet to have a valid argument to talk to the school about so there is no point at the moment .

Thanks Luke

Ah didn't realise it was from an American publication.

From what I have read, there is an Ofsted / fsa directive working with the government to raise the standards of healthy eating/drinking in schools, with a target of 97% of schools achieving the standards.

More info -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Healthy_Schools_Programme

Also the www.nice.org.uk website has more pdf's with guidelines and loads of info, searching Google for "national healthy school programme" see if there is some kind of legal stand mentioned in all the info.
 
If a child does not like plain water, they will not drink it.. I would rather my child drink some weak juice than not drink anything for the whole day, especially of it is hot. Im sure my child's learning would be impacted more by dehydration rather than a bit of sugar in their juice bottle.

My child (five years old) actually likes water but he does not drink enough during the day. We were told that the teacher does not have time to remind him to drink as they have a lot of other pupils. I appreciate that there are crouded classrooms but dehydration is a real danger during the summer months.

I'm only on P2 of the thread, but wanted to join by quoting this post.

The junior school my kids go to has a similar policy: kids should have bottles with just water in.

They are allowed to drink juice at lunchtime, with their food. They are allowed to take cups of water from the class fountain during the day; but drinking bottles are only to have water in them.

However, they don't insist on clear drinking bottles and don't, to my knowledge, routinely inspect children's bottles for juice, etc.

It's not been an issue for us, as we have always given our children water to drink over juice. They've grown up with it and like it. Juice (diluting/cordial) has always been a treat whilst out on trips (places seem to only sell those fruit shoot things). We'd sooner give them fresh juice, or milk as an alternative to water. It's not so much sugar content, although that is a consideration, but more to do with all the other crap that goes in food nowadays.

A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I wet to a parents meeting with the headteacher. It was to discuss general school issues, not our children specifically. It was here that the matter of drinking water was raised by a mother. A mother whos child won't drink water. :confused:

I wasn't aware of the policy until then, as we'd always just given our kids water. I try not to judge*, as 'unless you've walked in their shoes...', etc, but I'll be honest and admit I was taken-aback and couldn't understand why this mother was getting so annoyed. Just give your child drink water, ffs. If they're thirsty, they'll drink it. :rolleyes:

Anway, the head explained it was a health policy imposed by the education authority/council and not unique to our school. This didn't help matters. Some other parents joined in what was becoming somewhat aggresive questioning towards the head, including a GP. A GP that happens to also be our GP.

She was saying things like, 'What's worse? A child suffering dehydration, or drinking a little juice? What if I just give my child juice? Are you going to start inspecting drinking bottles?'

I didn't feel comfortable talking against a mother whos child won't drink water, or a GP who should know what they're talking about, so just listened. Thinking to myself, 'I'm glad my kids have grown up drinking water!'

The head said she'd go away and think about the issue, but I suspect there's little she can do in the face of official policy.

*Getting back to the whole '..do not judge...' statement I made earlier - GIVE YOUR KIDS WATER, FFS.

If they grow up drinking water, they'll drink it. If parents are lazy and irresponsible and give them crap-filled flavoured drinks all the time, then don't be surprised if that's what they always want and refuse water. I've seen parents give babies bottles with juice in. :mad: Some people shouldn't be allowed to breed.

That ends the deliberately confrontational section of my post. :p
 
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Not useful to your problem at all but you should really encourage him to 'like' water. Having a kid grow up essentially addicted to sugary drinks is not going to end well. An extreme example but my sister only ever drinks coke and other fizzy drinks. She's fat. And stupid. :)

I was brought up on Robinsons squash and still drink it to this day. Used to have it chilled in a five liter wine decanter in the fridge. I do not drink coffee, do not drink fizzy drinks and rarely drink alcohol as I much prefer a refreshing fruit and barley peach with a couple of ice cubes.
 
I didn't realise kids today carry water around with them and into lessons?

We had a drinking tap* in the loo, not one of us died from dehydration before the end bell.
Christ on a bike, what a lot of molly coddling goes on :(

Even out playing we all knew where the springs and big puddles were so we didn't have to go home for a drink, I suppose they carry bottles of Evian around with them now?


*actually I don't think we even had that, we must have just drank out of the tap.
 
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We had a water fountain but i guess these are not around anymore? Probably for the best. There was always the scuzzy kid who stick his whole gob around the shoot and sucked the water our. Pretty gross thinking about it now.

Anyway i agree with everyone in this thread. Kids only get a taste for something if you give it to them in the first place. If my girls have squash it's a treat and they know it. Same as with chocolate. I can also understand the problem though for a parent who has brought their child up drinking squash (i dont see this as a problem) as making them switch at that point is not easy. Introducing a policy like this mid way through a term is bad management of the situation.

I'd also repeat my original statement - i assume the teachers are only on water also. No tea and coffee for them?
 
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6 inch Chicken and Bacon Ranch Melt, crisp and medium drink - 842 calories

Cheeseburger, medium fries and medium drink - 795 calories

So it is easily on the same level as mcdonalds.....

Not meaning to have a go but it annoys me when people talk about subway as some healthy option. Its my choice of fast food but is far from healthy

Edit: I really have to stop posting on my brothers account ffs!

Oh dear, do we have to go into the breakdown of the calories, the amount of fat and salt in comparison?

I'm not saying it is a healthy option but it is not a fatburger from maccy d's with a side serving of salt.

Oh and using just a cheeseburger in comparison to a 6" sub is silly, at least use a 1/4lb'er, which then tips the kcals over 800.
Oh, and I used the chicken n bacon as an example as it is the highest kcal sub, remember that a steak and cheese or random other could be only 300-500kcal with even less fat again.

A 6" baguette with chicken and bacon made at home would not be healthier to a significant degree that it makes the blindest bit of difference, for me it would actually be worse as i would put more chicken and more bacon in!


Ah lol, looks like everyone else picked you up on your comment too. Good work people lol. Anyway, off to get a footlong chicken n bacon flatbread nom nom.

Anyone eating over 800kcal a meal deserves to die a fatty death, oh dear lol.
 
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As a side note, but since you are discussing calories of junk food, I very rarely have McD or BK, but the other day waiting for train back from London I had a BK Double Whopper meal - regular, and on the menu it was listed as a 'whopping' 1,329 calories :eek:
 
As a side note, but since you are discussing calories of junk food, I very rarely have McD or BK, but the other day waiting for train back from London I had a BK Double Whopper meal - regular, and on the menu it was listed as a 'whopping' 1,329 calories :eek:

Yeah, mental isnt it! then they want you to not go large but supersize everything and then have more sides lol. Easy to do 2000kcal in BK with just 1 meal :)
 
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