China and war

They won't tolerate any interference in their internal affairs and they state they never have any interest in interfering in the internal affairs of other countries either.

Yes, they state this, and it's obviously nonsense. Worth listening to Audrey Tang's comments on "nerd immunity", and the importance of educating the Taiwanese population to recognise and dismiss obvious Chinese propaganda.

Head outside Taiwan and you only need to go back a few days to see the state mouthpiece news agency calling for the "painful and public humiliation" of the UK in response to rejecting Huawei.

"Original soul" is stretching things a bit... The Imperial Qing dynasty was in power until 1912 after all.

Mixed feelings with this one, I get the idea that those who retreated to Taiwan following the civil war represent "real" China, as in, they carried on without the insanity that Mao brought to China between the 50s and 70s, but at the same time would say by now it's very much its own country - certainly the vast majority of under 40s have no interest in being the real China, when they could be the real Taiwan.

The 1912-1949 Republic of China era in the mainland had a whole lot of rejection of the imperial history, but didn't set about the wholesale destruction of that in the way that Mao managed thereafter.
 
HK is China btw as it has been for the last 23 years. Our preference is that it remains as it has been/still is.
China's reaction to what they meant by 'consequences' I've found quite fair to be honest.
My problem with that is when they UK handed HK back to China, it was agreed that HK would remain independent for 50 years. Obviously they were dog years or some such.
Our "preference" should be that they abide by agreements, no?
 
Mixed feelings with this one, I get the idea that those who retreated to Taiwan following the civil war represent "real" China, as in, they carried on without the insanity that Mao brought to China between the 50s and 70s, but at the same time would say by now it's very much its own country - certainly the vast majority of under 40s have no interest in being the real China, when they could be the real Taiwan.

The 1912-1949 Republic of China era in the mainland had a whole lot of rejection of the imperial history, but didn't set about the wholesale destruction of that in the way that Mao managed thereafter.

My bigger point that I had stopped myself on because I like tangents when it comes to history is that the original comment re. Taiwan didn't take into account the counter government set up and supported by the Communists in Canton in 1921, and the fact the Chinese civil war started in 1927, paused due to Imperial Japanese aggression in 1936/37 and recommenced in 1949. Not to mention the attempt to go back to an Imperial government in 1915.

Basically, China's political history in the 20th Century is far more turbulent than democratic government ousted by Communists after WW2, with the previously elected government fleeing to exile in Taiwan. Although that did happen too.
 
China’s Three Gorges Dam is at severe risk of breaking, the overwhelming majority of Chinese pharmaceutical production is located on the Yangtze River just below the dam. If it breaks, it could be a catastrophe for the people of China the the United States..
 
My bigger point that I had stopped myself on because I like tangents when it comes to history is that the original comment re. Taiwan didn't take into account the counter government set up and supported by the Communists in Canton in 1921, and the fact the Chinese civil war started in 1927, paused due to Imperial Japanese aggression in 1936/37 and recommenced in 1949. Not to mention the attempt to go back to an Imperial government in 1915.

Basically, China's political history in the 20th Century is far more turbulent than democratic government ousted by Communists after WW2, with the previously elected government fleeing to exile in Taiwan. Although that did happen too.

Sure, and I've always enjoyed their attempts to reconcile the father of modern China with also being the father of China but the wrong China. But while I do think it is important to understand how the current situation came to be, I was replying to the idea of Taiwan being the real China, because I don't think that's been a real belief for a while, though its always convenient to bring up how the ROC constitution claims China as their territory without mentioning that renouncing this claim would provoke China in to claiming it was an act of secession.
 
China’s Three Gorges Dam is at severe risk of breaking, the overwhelming majority of Chinese pharmaceutical production is located on the Yangtze River just below the dam. If it breaks, it could be a catastrophe for the people of China the the United States..

Did you watch those videos I posted a few posts up there ^^^^.
 
China’s Three Gorges Dam is at severe risk of breaking, the overwhelming majority of Chinese pharmaceutical production is located on the Yangtze River just below the dam. If it breaks, it could be a catastrophe for the people of China the the United States..

Three Gorges has 40 Billion tons of water behind it!

(Yes, I did say Billion)

The Dam that is being built by China in Ethiopia will, when filled, have up to 75 Billion!

A major Dam failure would make pretty much the worst imaginable Nuclear power plant failure look like somebody knocked over a cup of coffee!
 
I imagine China wants the Ethiopian dam to succeed, then again planned obsolescence is basically disaster capitalism 101, so i wouldn't be surprised if it was some form of counter intuitive diplomacy.
 
Three Gorges has 40 Billion tons of water behind it!

(Yes, I did say Billion)

The Dam that is being built by China in Ethiopia will, when filled, have up to 75 Billion!

A major Dam failure would make pretty much the worst imaginable Nuclear power plant failure look like somebody knocked over a cup of coffee!

Yea, its not good.

To put it into perspective of how much water that is, if one second represented 1 tonne of water, 40 billion tonnes would take 1280 years to exhaust.
 
1 tonne of water a second isn’t that much. You’re average power station will have numerous pumps that pump over 10 tonnes a second. But 40 billion tonnes is a lot of water. I’m assuming that’s 40 cubic kilometres, ouch.
 
1 tonne of water a second isn’t that much. You’re average power station will have numerous pumps that pump over 10 tonnes a second. But 40 billion tonnes is a lot of water. I’m assuming that’s 40 cubic kilometres, ouch.
Yes it would be 40 billion tonnes over a matter of a very few minutes. Even the pressure wave generated in the air would probably knock down buildings before the water completed the job.
 
Its so good to see the world standing up for itself, and Xi looking red faced is now facing dissidence in his party - President for Life? Maybe not...

Key generals have attacked Xi Jinping for squandering China's big chance. They say his tactics have ruined their chances of world domination.
One man. One party. One country of 1.4 billion people. Little wonder Chairman-for-life Xi Jinping is worried about maintaining absolute authority.
To do so, he's painted a nationalistic picture of China's future. It's as good as – if not greater – than at any point in its 2000-year history.
Now, he has to deliver. That's not proving so easy.

Floods. Insects. Famine. COVID-19. All are affecting food supplies and prices.
Xi quickly fell back on the tried-and-tested fallback position for most embattled authoritarian leaders: extol the nation's greatness, it's glorious history, it's manifest destiny – and blame everybody else for its woes.
But the world isn't cowering in the face of such 'wolf warrior' diplomacy as expected.
They're biting back.

Australia. Britain. Canada. India. Japan. Vietnam. All have stood firm in the face of extraordinary Chinese threats and intimidation. And, for Chairman Xi, that's humiliating.
Now rumbles are beginning within his halls of power. Has Xi squandered China's great chance to take its rightful place on the world stage? Instead of backing down in the face of threatened economic sanctions, Canberra has hardened its insistence upon the rule of international law over the East and South China Seas.

Even Somalia has taken a stand. Chinese ambassador Qin Jian reportedly attempted a 'wolf-warrior' tack in recent talks with President Muse Bihi. He was given "marching orders", and Somalia's government initiated diplomatic contact with Taiwan.

Retired Major General Qiao Liang and a serving PLA Air Force Senior Colonel Dai Xu are two prominent voices sounding a note of discord in Beijing in recent weeks.
Qiao is one of the founders of China's modern military doctrine after publishing his book Unrestricted Warfare in 1999.
He's dared to contradict Chairman Xi's aggressive threats to take control of neighbouring Taiwan by force.
"China's ultimate goal is not the reunification of Taiwan, but to achieve the dream of national rejuvenation so that all 1.4 billion Chinese can have a good life," he said in a recent interview. "Could it be achieved by taking Taiwan back? Of course not."

Senior Colonel Dai was even blunter about the potential cost of a cold war with the US in an essay entitled: 2020, Four Unexpected Things and Ten New Understandings About the United States.
"The US would be so tough, imposing stacked tariff increases of 30 billion, 50 billion and then 200 billion," he writes. "Remember: the 30 billion in tariffs imposed on you will bring an effect of 60 billion, 90 billion, or more. This is where Imperial America is truly powerful. We must be rational instead of angry and fight wisely."

Beijing is rapidly losing what friends it has.
"China has provided assistance to so many countries, benefiting them in so many ways, but at this critical moment, none of them has taken any unified action with China," Colonel Dai bemoans.
This fallout is also severely affecting many key Chinese corporations with strong ties to the military's leadership. Alibaba, Huawei and Tencent are just the most prominent names facing an intense international backlash.

Their financial losses will be felt personally by many PLA generals.
And unhappy generals make for uneasy authoritarian leaders.
 
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