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Report from Wall Street Journal: Markets feel the brunt of BYD's plague of quality issues
All around the world, there are a number of quality issues being reported:
* In Israel, there is a mass problem with BYD car panels warping (possibly from the hot weather?)
* In Thailand, there is mass reports of plastic parts inside the BYD car cabin chipping, cracking and also reports of paint pealing off and rust showing on brand new cars
* In Europe there is currently 10 thousand BYD vehicles parked in a warehouse and reports are that many vehicles have developed mold inside the cabins because BYD doesn't treat its vehicles with mold deterrents.
All around the world, there are a number of quality issues being reported:
* In Israel, there is a mass problem with BYD car panels warping (possibly from the hot weather?)
* In Thailand, there is mass reports of plastic parts inside the BYD car cabin chipping, cracking and also reports of paint pealing off and rust showing on brand new cars
* In Europe there is currently 10 thousand BYD vehicles parked in a warehouse and reports are that many vehicles have developed mold inside the cabins because BYD doesn't treat its vehicles with mold deterrents.
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maybe the germans aren't impartial either repost - https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/kompakte-e-autos-im-test-vergleich-china-europa/
both great-wall & byd castigated for build and software
despite concerns by ursula of chinese ev dumping I think the consumer is seeing through the facade,
they/china can put lots of subsidised batteries in them, but the build quality & current absence of dealer networks is damning,
in turn smaller batteried ~50Kwh eu cars like the stellantis have their range problems.
LFP battery management by the chinese (tesla already on top of it) in the ex30 & co could be another looming issue as they develop/catch-up models for battery capacity at lower <5 temps to estimate remaining ranges,
Long term lfp lifetime questions, too, & whether they live up to promises, we will see.
both great-wall & byd castigated for build and software
despite concerns by ursula of chinese ev dumping I think the consumer is seeing through the facade,
they/china can put lots of subsidised batteries in them, but the build quality & current absence of dealer networks is damning,
in turn smaller batteried ~50Kwh eu cars like the stellantis have their range problems.
LFP battery management by the chinese (tesla already on top of it) in the ex30 & co could be another looming issue as they develop/catch-up models for battery capacity at lower <5 temps to estimate remaining ranges,
Long term lfp lifetime questions, too, & whether they live up to promises, we will see.
(I thought huawei were persona non-grata in the UK and USA following the ? google stopped licensing android & FBI said not in our workplace ...
not to mention new concerns on car cyber attacks ; times change, I remember when colleagues were aspiring to work at well payed huawei jobs in uk)
not to mention new concerns on car cyber attacks ; times change, I remember when colleagues were aspiring to work at well payed huawei jobs in uk)
Thing is the Japanese never really used to plan/build in obsolescence. They used the best materials and quality control was far beyond others. But that isn't what modern business likes :/
I can't ever see Chinese cars making it to the top tbh. Their way is to just pump out cheap products in huge numbers.
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yes did the japanese have big state subsidies too, the chinese unless under supervised western manufacturing QC (enslaved by Apple, say) are just fulfilling minimum standards for eu vehicle certification,
and I guess, are obligated to take the cars back to china and recycle, or magic them away, at EOL.
I don't believe the fleet car market was significant when the original japanese cars arrived , so they were privately purchased, versus now, with leasing companies county-lines distribution.
... Bidan and UrsulaAndress the last bastions.
and I guess, are obligated to take the cars back to china and recycle, or magic them away, at EOL.
I don't believe the fleet car market was significant when the original japanese cars arrived , so they were privately purchased, versus now, with leasing companies county-lines distribution.
... Bidan and Ursula
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polstar owners may disagree with you and I think the Chinese built Tesla's are considered the ones to have over the American ones.
any businesses discount the Chinese at their peril imo when it comes to manufacture.
Have you tried a modern Chinese phone, like Xiaomi, Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Vivo, Realme, Redmi, OnePlus, Poco? They have amazing build quality.
China is the world factory and most products on the shelves of Western shops are made in China, including expensive ones. E.g. Apple phones are assembled by Chinese factories. Most laptops on the UK market are assembled in China. Most home and commercial appliances sold in UK are made in China.
The idea that China can only make cheap, low quality products may have been correct in the 90s, but I think you need to open your eyes and see that China's industry has changed
assembled though - lots of cheap dextrous fingers ... what is the prowess of their engineering/design/manufacture ? and thus the likely integrity of ev's they have designed ground up (if any)
maybe there is bom for iphone that shows the sourcing of those assembled parts.
Quite like the MG4, just a pity it doesn't have a heat pump. The quality of Chinese cars will continue to improve, which will leave a lot of the traditional car companies heading for bankruptcy. A lot of the typical car brands have left it far, far too late.