Chinese Grand Prix 2010, Shanghai - Race 4/19

Vettel is a puppy at the moment.

hes already showing signs of beeing more annoying than schumacher ever was people though schumacher was smug but he never shoved a finger in the air for what may aswell have been an eternity everytime he got pole
 
If Hamilton carries on like that all year its not going to fit in a single video :(

lol :D
Love watching him race!

And he'll still be behind Button, unless he ups his qualifying performances.

I'm sure once we're back in Europe on familiar tracks with predicable weather it will be back to normal.

IIRC Barcelona is a god aweful track for overtaking due to it mainly consisting of highspeed corners. This usually groups teams together e.g both redbulls, both ferrraris etc..
 
Behind the wheel of the car, Hamilton is an animal. Looking back, I can't actually remember another driver of his callibre when it comes to "racing". The only guys I can think of who would give him a run for his money are Senna and Mansell, other than that, I can't think of anyone who even comes close.

What I also like is the fact that other drivers in F1 fear him, his ability and his speed. I remember when Kubica made reference to Hamilton's speed and "hounding", before McLaren told him to pit, in Australia (was it)?

Rosberg also made reference to Hamilton in a few races, in that he was worried that Hamilton would catch and overtake him (which he did).

The greatest compliment you can get, is from your fellow professionals - when they fear you and even dislike you - you know you are good. As an example, Senna, Prost and Mansell, who were the top dogs in their time, all had a strong dislike for one another.

The only driver I can think of in the past, who generated this kind of fear (for want of better word) is Senna, where people would seemingly yield to him, as he moved to overtake them. In reality, they weren't really yielding, but were just being overtaken by a driver who had a better racing head.

Great stuff.
 
Was told late afternoon arrival for the FOM 747 Cargos.

not sure if all the cars coming back were on the 2 jumbo`s as i wasn't at the planes the whole time as i was taking my lot to the staging area, but the cars i offloaded were the redbulls\lotus\Renault\virgin and McLarens, there were 3 other workmates driving so dont know what cars etc they had on there dollies
 
I think his double overtake on Vettel/Sutil in China was just immense.

If you watch on that video he initially thinks about following Vettel on the outside, then thinks about the inside. In the end he plays it awesomely by just dropping back a tad bit whilst the other two duke it out, then just zips round the inside.

Awesomeness :D

Su
 
I think his double overtake on Vettel/Sutil in China was just immense.

If you watch on that video he initially thinks about following Vettel on the outside, then thinks about the inside. In the end he plays it awesomely by just dropping back a tad bit whilst the other two duke it out, then just zips round the inside.

Awesomeness :D

Su

and when he overtook msc was just pure awesomeness
 
and when he overtook msc was just pure awesomeness

TBH, that wasnt so great, given that MSc was going pretty slow. Moreover, in that race, I think MS was the driver who was overtaken the most (drivers were overtaking him, going into the pits, exiting behind him and then easily overtaking him again), so he was pretty much being used for overtaking practise.
 
Behind the wheel of the car, Hamilton is an animal. Looking back, I can't actually remember another driver of his callibre when it comes to "racing". The only guys I can think of who would give him a run for his money are Senna and Mansell, other than that, I can't think of anyone who even comes close.

Wheel to wheel Villenueve was far better than Hamilton when he had a car to showcase that ability. In a slower car he was one of the hardest drivers to pass F1 has ever seen as well. He could cover the racing line without running drivers out of track. Sadly he made all the wrong moves career wise so only had 2 or 3 years to show it.

The pass round the outside of the parabolica in 96 was one of the greatest moves of all time, especially as they said it couldn't be done. This was when cornering was a compromise not a flat out aerogrip fest.

A decent piece on the history of that move...

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/14018.html



Edit, I'd also add montoya to my list. Sadly he just didn't gel with F1. I really didn't like him much but the guy was an animal wheel to wheel. A very sad loss for F1 imo.
 
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I remember the likes of Montoya and Villeneuve. Yes they were both aggressive, but they simply didnt rack up the overtakes which Senna, Mansell or Hamilton could.

It was a long time ago, but I don't remember Villeneuve or Montoya overtaking their team-mate (same car). I've seen Hamilton do this, to Button (its in the video posted earlier) and Heikki. I'm not sure if he ever did it to Alonso, though Hamilton was still in his first year.

It was a long time ago, so my memory fails me - I dont ever remember Villeneuve overtaking Hill (apart from off the starting grid) and I don't remember Montoya ever overtaking Hakkinen. (Note, Button, Hill, Hakkinen - all future or current world champions).

Moreover, Montoya and Villeneuve were both racing when overtaking was comparatively easy (ie. following the car in front, in the dirty air wasnt as difficult as it is in 2010).

Montoya and Villenuve did occassionally produce some great overtakes, but Hamilton has probably already racked up more competitive overtakes in 4 races, than Montoya and Villeneuve ever racked in an entire season. (Hamilton is currently on 32 competitive overtakes, after 4 races: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83067).

For me, there are only 2 guys who I have seen what Hamilton has done in the last 4 races - Senna and Mansell.

For sheer race-craft, Hamilton is as good as there ever was.
 
You get to pull more overtakes when you stuff up and have bad luck/pace in qfy in a great car.

Villeneuve overtook hill for position in his first ever race, not once but twice. After the restart he had to do it again.

You are deluded if you think 32 competetive over takes is more than Villeneuve racked up in a season. If you start at the back in a series where you carry full fuel you are going to rack up overtakes. The nature of the game has changed.

Dirty air was still a problem in 96 and onwards but you could leap cars in pitstops as well as on the track.

It also helps right now that he has a decent straightline advantage over the other cars. That F duct is certainly making it easier for him.

You say it was easier back then, well you would think he'd have been easier to pass in cars seconds per lap faster than the one he had.

Is hamilton good, my god yes he's fast but both Montoya and Villeneuve would eat him for breakfast wheel to wheel. Sadly both of those drivers where never going to get on with sprint races and grooved tyre formats. Both would be awesome with the direction the rules are heading or Sennas day.
 
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