Chinese Grand Prix 2012, Shanghai - Race 3/20

schumi84 said:
Fantastic 2nd half to the race, really disappointed for Michael but I am sure his time will come this season as they finally seem to be able to understand the car a bit more.
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The question is though: when Merc have the fastest car again, on a particular track, will MSc be able to beat Rosberg? MSc was hopelessly out-gunned today. MSc is clearly past his best and its not nice (for me) seeing the best driver of all time being beaten so comprehensively. I think Rosberg was going about 0.5s/lap faster than MSc, which is humiliating for arguably the best driver of all time. Even Alonso wasn't beating Massa by that sort of margin today.

When will MSc realise that his time has passed and that he needs to allow the next generation to have their chance?
 
merc split the stratergies before qualifying yesterday

rosberg was setup for cooler temps (his setup put more heat into the tyres)
michael was setup for hotter temps (his setup put less heat into the tyres)

the track was cold again today
michael probbaly would have been on a 3 stop and would at the least of been second

also china is rosbergs favorite track and its a track schumacher never liked
 
CaptainRAVE said:
It certainly is looking great. Last season got so boring when it was just RB winning every race.

Kimi must have been gutted - doubt he has experienced anything like that before.
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Tyre degredation like that, not really. But he did have a suspension/hub failure on the last lap while leading due to a flatspot. During the old Not allowed to change tyres rule era.
 
^^ wheel exploding is slightly different though :p

arknor said:
michael probbaly would have been on a 3 stop and would at the least of been second
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Guess we will never know. Had the McLarens not been held up in traffic Mercedes would have been under some serious pressure. Lots of factors could have changed the result.
 
i guess merc know where about they need to be with the tyre temprature window now anyway, seems like this weekend was an experiement and they were hedging there bets
 
englishpremier said:
It wouldn't have been that close. Rosberg was lapping faster than button, with a good stop Rosberg would have been at least 14s ahead of button. Button's tyres would only have been a few laps newer, yet he would have needed to make up 2 seconds a lap with just 15 laps to go.

There was no chance he was ever going to catch and pass him without a mistake.
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So you are saying that in order to get over a 14s lead with 15 laps to go button would have to have been 2s a lap faster? :confused:
 
Skeeter said:
I think McLarens strategy problems are because the over analyse everything. They spend so much time looking at all the details that they miss the chance for those 'off the cuff' split second decisions. Sometimes you have to just go with your gut, and you cant do that if every decision needs to go through all the simulations and people at mission control to analyse every possible outcome.
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totally agree with this

Personally think McLaren got the last stop wrong, should have pulled JB in before Lewis, he would have avoided that train of cars (and not lost so much time to Rosberg, as he was losing it hand over fist at that point)

Well done to Rosberg, he managed everything very well indeed - even if the cool track temp probably allowed this win to happen, really glad it was him and not MS (and given the fact that MS was dropping back consistantly from Rosberg, MS would never have won without Rosberg having issues anyway)

Lewis needs to be more clinical with his passing imo, yes he has learnt to be calm, but he was being held up for lap after lap where JB pounced and passed in 1st lap behind the same cars

Good to see Mark beating SV (especially after Mark's very early 1st stop)


Should be a very interesting season, 3 races in and three different winners.
Very happy to see JB on the podium after that awful stop, and Lewis did ok too

dannyjo22 said:
Mclaren made extremely hard work of today again. This is what worries me most about mclaren if a one driver team gets a run at them while they are busy taking points from each other.
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This hasnt happened as yet this season, so its a little unfair to criticize them on this until it happens
 
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dalin80 said:
Certainly would have been close, once in free air he was a second a lap faster but only had a few laps before the end.

Without the pitstop button wouldnt have been caught in the pack and would have been circa 14s behind at a guesstimate on new tyres and a good amount of laps to go.
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Agree.

I think he would have managed to catch him as he was making up good time when free of the pack.
 
Nice to see rosberg get the win but the race FOR the win was dull because of that final Button pit stop which was a real shame.

Loads of racing through out the rest of the pack though which was great to see. Plenty of sphincter tightening moments where you're convinced the guy is going to turn in and ruin it all.
 
DC is a legend, one of the lads was out with him last night until about 0530 this morning. The picture was hilarious!!!!!



What a great day at the races!

The porsche race before hand was action packed and got us all excited for the race.

A really good F1 race to watch with the only slightly anoying thing being less DRS overtakes than expected in the first half. Those picked up significantly and we had a feast from the top row of the Grandstand!

Rosberg seemed quick all race and Kimi was annoying holding everyone up in his train.

Right, off for dinner then to the F1 afterparty at Mint, soooo:


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Fantastic race. Shows the rule changes on awridynamics has worked and they can now follow each other. Rule stability has also closed the gaps between teams. So can we know ditch the utterly stupid and failed DRS.
 
dalin80 said:
So you are saying that in order to get over a 14s lead with 15 laps to go button would have to have been 2s a lap faster? :confused:
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Lol, yeah. Rosberg was lapping very quickly on the prime tyres well into his stint. Button would not have been much quicker. So i was anticipating the gap being more or less the same ( Button's tyres wouldn't ahve been much newer) until about lap 48/49 when Rosberg's tyres would have started to go off. Than Button would have needed to be 2s a lap faster once Rosbergs tyres hit the cliff.
 
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