Chinese Grand Prix 2014, Shanghai - Race 4/19

Glaucus said:
They have ****** vet to be honest, it's like a 2.5 strategy now.
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Yup, he started on a 3 stop and they tried to move him to a 2 stop which is a terrible idea. For 4 years switching strategy almost never works and never works at the tracks with terrible tyre wear. if he'd pitted 10 laps ago and was on fresh tyres he'd be 2-3 seconds faster a lap for most of the past 10 laps. Likewise he now has to do too long on this tyre really.

He started on a 3 stop, should have stayed on a three stop, terrible decision by the team.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Sad but true.

The problem with Red Bull is they're a marketing machine, not a racing team. Teams like Ferrari or McLaren (or even Mercedes with their older history) are racing teams who are in F1 primarily for the sport. Red Bull are a corporate machine who are in it for the publicity and marketing and don't really care about the racing.
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To be fair, they haven't had a strong history of drivers racing cleanly :p. History suggests the best way to get both cars home in 1 piece is to keep them well away from each other.

Vettel is in a race with Ricciardo, he's fully entitled to ignore being told to let him past.
 
So, if Lewis wins and Rosberg comes second, Rosberg will still be leading the championship.

I know Lewis had a DNF in Australia but, am I alone in thinking there's something wrong with the points system when one win and three second places score more points than three wins?
 
Vertigo1 said:
So, if Lewis wins and Rosberg comes second, Rosberg will still be leading the championship.

I know Lewis had a DNF in Australia but, am I alone in thinking there's something wrong with the points system when one win and three second places score more points than three wins?
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Swings and roundabouts. If there was a bigger points score for winning Vettel would have won championships by midway through the season.
 
Vertigo1 said:
So, if Lewis wins and Rosberg comes second, Rosberg will still be leading the championship.

I know Lewis had a DNF in Australia but, am I alone in thinking there's something wrong with the points system when one win and three second places score more points than three wins?
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That was how Vettel stayed up last few years before his stint of GP wins... Coming on podium puts you in potential, what I don't agree is the double point final GP.
 
Skeeter said:
Swings and roundabouts. If there was a bigger points score for winning Vettel would have won championships by midway through the season.
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Granted but frankly Vettel was going to win it regardless anyway so whether it was a bit earlier in the season really didn't make much difference.

Personally I think there should be a clear 10 point gap between first and second.
 
Vertigo1 said:
So, if Lewis wins and Rosberg comes second, Rosberg will still be leading the championship.

I know Lewis had a DNF in Australia but, am I alone in thinking there's something wrong with the points system when one win and three second places score more points than three wins?
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Not really, ultimately DNF's are really bad for everything, but it's why title's don't mean everything. As someone said DNF's are more likely to decide the title of a truly dominant team than which driver is better, or has a huge change to impact it.

with 25 points lost to Rosberg Hamilton has to in 4 races more just to draw level, assuming Rosberg gets second with which this team is highly likely.

Have 3 failures in a season when your team mate gets a defacto win and it's very difficult to win it as I'd put money on Rosberg winning one or two races over Hamilton without DNF's.

Put it this way if this season finished today with a Hamilton/rosberg 1-2 and Rosberg won the title, would you say Rosberg had been the best driver? No different to over 20 races.
 
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