Powercolor Vega 56 a worthy card?
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Choices, Choices... 1070Ti or Vega 56
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Soldato
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It's arguably the best performing card around the £350 budget, but it is also around 10% slower than the Vega64.
The Vega56 should be able to maintain a solid 60fps+ in most games once overclocked, but for 4K it would definitely be falling short. For my overclocked Vega64, I found that it can maintain 45fps+ at 3200x1600 in Monster Hunter World, but it does fall short for 3840x2160 unless I turn the graphic settings way down (which I think look far worse than 3200x1600 with high graphic settings).
10% if you already managing 60fps+ it probably won't make much of a difference, but if using the Monster Hunter World example I mentioned as above, the difference between the overclocked Vega64 vs the overclocked Vega56 would be something like minimum 45fps vs 40fps...which the 5fps different can be quite a noticeable difference in perceived smoothness.
At the end of the day, it would be down to you to decide if you are willing to spend the extra as a long term investment for the return in better performance in gaming.
It is 10-12% faster than RX 580.
Estimated cost £280-£300, VEGA 56 is still quite a bit faster and at £350 better value for the performance it offers.
Alternatively an RX 580 8G at £200 is the best value proposition of them all!
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Agreed, damn good card for 1080p (and even 1440p if you don't mind not running with max detail!)
Well 1440p is my go to resolution and want to crank everything up to the max. Cheers folks for the advice, it's narrowed it down a little and no doubt by this weekend I'll have made my choice.
Might wait till Black Friday for further price drops.
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For what its worth, I got rid of my GTX 1080 and got a Vega 64 and i'd never look back.
If you have a freesync monitor its a no brainer. The reality is that "unleashed" i.e framerates in the tripple digits the GTX 1080 may perform slightly better and draw less power but within the actual usable freesync ranges i.e 60 -120 odd fps they are pretty much identical with the Vega often offering up a bit more consistent experience.
Vega is a lot more tweakable but has maybe less out of the box performance than the offerings from nvidia.
All depends on you and of course your use case, but like I said, the combo of Freesync and Radeon Chill is great and as a whole the Radeon ecosystem is nice to use
If you have a freesync monitor its a no brainer. The reality is that "unleashed" i.e framerates in the tripple digits the GTX 1080 may perform slightly better and draw less power but within the actual usable freesync ranges i.e 60 -120 odd fps they are pretty much identical with the Vega often offering up a bit more consistent experience.
Vega is a lot more tweakable but has maybe less out of the box performance than the offerings from nvidia.
All depends on you and of course your use case, but like I said, the combo of Freesync and Radeon Chill is great and as a whole the Radeon ecosystem is nice to use
Should it fit in a Corsair 500D?
Caporegime
That's Navi, the 590 is just a clock bumped 580.
Yeah if AMD had a (mid-range) 1080 competitor they wouldn't be calling it a 590, this late after the 400 and 500 series have been and gone. It'd be the 680 for sure.
Also with Vega 64 being a 1080 competitor already it wouldn't make a ton of sense to release a new card in an old series targeting the same perf. It would have to be a new series.
Logically. Otherwise you'd have two cards at the same price and perf, or you'd have one card that was cheaper and the other wouldn't sell.
If AMD was therefore to retired the Vega 64, due to the new card being cheaper to produce, it would sure as heck warrant being a new series of cards. Because the same tech would allow them also to replace the Vega 56 with a cheaper to produce card, and the 580, etc. Ergo, new tech, new series.
The 590 isn't that card. It's a 580+5% or something equally useless.
Also with Vega 64 being a 1080 competitor already it wouldn't make a ton of sense to release a new card in an old series targeting the same perf. It would have to be a new series.
Logically. Otherwise you'd have two cards at the same price and perf, or you'd have one card that was cheaper and the other wouldn't sell.
If AMD was therefore to retired the Vega 64, due to the new card being cheaper to produce, it would sure as heck warrant being a new series of cards. Because the same tech would allow them also to replace the Vega 56 with a cheaper to produce card, and the 580, etc. Ergo, new tech, new series.
The 590 isn't that card. It's a 580+5% or something equally useless.
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Just had the same dilemma, but I added the slightly more expensive Vega64, 1080 and 2070 into the mix too, I have been looking at benchmarks for ages, months in fact then I decided to wait and see what the 2070 was like.
I have just ordered the 1070ti.. I’m expecting a good performance increase over my exsisting r9-290.
I have just ordered the 1070ti.. I’m expecting a good performance increase over my exsisting r9-290.
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Now we just need the wink... Dissapointed if they are going to hike the price that high for that size performance bump.
Leaning in the same direction as yourself, will make my decision soon... catching up on some reviews etc.
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I have the R290 as well and been looking at reviews for 1070ti it something else.
Let me know how if you can crank up games to max on 1080p Res.
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I wanted the Vega64 ideally,
will do, I’m gaming at 1080p 60hz, but mostly on a Oculus Rift playing VR.
From what I can gather, the 1070ti lends itself to 144hz 1080p and 1440p more so than 1080p 60hz.
I’ll come back to this thread once I have found time to install it in a day or too
Soldato
It will breeze through 1080p. Everything bar Ark Survival on Ultra high.
They are NOT hiking the price, RX 580 8G at £199 is a give away and by far not the normal price of an RX 580, you only need to look around to see the normal selling price of RX 580 8G is £250 - £350 and the RX 590 shall simply replace those RX 580's at same price for a slight performance boost.
An RX 580 8G at £200 or an RX 570 8G at £150 are simply epic bargains and just been done to clear excess inventory.
The MSRP on the RX580 8Gig was $229 on release. I totally get that memory pricing has gone a bit nutballs in the interim - but as far as I can tell that is down to epic demand not an increase in the actual manufacturing process and now the mining boom has well and truly finished. I was really hoping that what we were looking at was post mining pricing getting back to normal, not sell down of stock to clear out for the 590.
What will be will be, I was just hoping for things to get back to the price point they used to sit at.
What will be will be, I was just hoping for things to get back to the price point they used to sit at.
Maybe compared to the competition, but compared to the age of the cards... not so much.
I know AMD thinks it can re-release the 480 a whole bunch of times and each time reset the price to £300+, but not all of us are that stupid to fall for it.