Christian Bale losing it on set of T4 at the DP

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Mammalian said:
thank you so much for pointing it out, i thought i made it a bit too well hidden but thankfully i did not. you agree assumptions are bad? at least i didn't make a thread about it and my posts were in defense of someone rather then "attacking" bale.

out of interest do you agree with what mrk has said and think it was a fair thing to say?

and what i really love is how the assumptions the mrk has made have just been shown to be completely wrong (if the source is credible of course) by what Vanilla posted. however i hihgly doubt it will affect mrk views on bale, bale is still obviously a drama queen who doesn't care about his fans and does something thousands of other actors could do just as well etc etc.

i love how people will pick on cb (because he is better then them?) yet ignore when other people do the exact same thing, well not the exact imo it's far worse but anyway.



lets ignore this post though.
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What? so you agree Bale was over the line yet you disagree to me stating he was over the line on this matter and that there is no excuse for such language toward a colleague regardless of the situation? Clearly you're in your own world making your own translations of peoples posts here.

What you've just said unless your intended text was meant to be read in a different context but isn't...) is that Bale was out of line and that other actors COULD be similarly out of line yet don't? which is pretty much the whole point of the thread? so you're agreeing in one mind yet disagreeing with everything I have said about Bale being way out of line and that because of his foul language probably didn't even think of his audience in case someone leaked it out?

Good going there.

Hypocrisy 101 right here folks, popcorn at the ready etc.

It's funny how you seem to be up in arms over this, in part mainly to my posts though whilst everyone else is throwing their opinions about happily. Do you have an issue here? Are you in some ways a Bale fanboy?

No need to answer as I already have my mind made up about those.
 
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Mammalian said:
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I agree with mrk in the fact that Bale was out of line in the way he acted and threatened the DP; which I think is his main point he was trying to make.

Having said that the guy must have been guilty of making mistakes on set to provoke such a reaction from Bale, he is quite into the scene and does make some valid coments (throughout the rest of his tirade).

I was more concerned with your comments towards someone who has only been promoting decent discussion, regardless of how old he is or his intelligence level.
 
didnt he do something to his mum in a london hotel at the premiere of batman or something?

i think hes a great actor... but i guess someone who can starve themself to the point he did in 'the machinist' must be near the line.

EDIT: doing a bit of digging online and it would seem the guy who was getting the abuse was the Director of Photography Shane Hurlbut who is considered a 'tweaker' as in he tweaks the lights during set which accoridng to stuff online is generally a big no, no in film productions.... i guess, if what it says online, was one of the final scenes with high emotion and this guy had been warned then it would *annoy* you, especially if your trying to get your mind into whatever your trying to act out.
 
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Mammalian said:
can someone explain whats so idiotic about this? i don't get it :confused:

my brother has moved to canada, he sounds english but says a lot of words in a canadian accent. man he is such an idiot :) makes no sense to me :confused:
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He is an idiot because, in my view he got totally out of hand about the situation. Instead of pulling the guy aside and talking to him about what happened (like any decent person would do) he instead rants at him in front of everyone, when there is very little the guy he's screaming at can do. Back chat him? yeah at the cost of his job, so he just has to grin and bear it.
He is the "Big Man" right enough.
Oh and he's actually Welsh, therefore he's a Welsh man, talking in an American accent, and then slipping into a English overtone. :rolleyes:

P.S. NOO!! NOOOOOOO! DONT SHUT ME UP! hahahahaaha
 
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mrk said:
What? so you agree Bale was over the line yet you disagree to me stating he was over the line on this matter and that there is no excuse for such language toward a colleague regardless of the situation? Clearly you're in your own world making your own translations of peoples posts here.

What you've just said unless your intended text was meant to be read in a different context but isn't...) is that Bale was out of line and that other actors COULD be similarly out of line yet don't? which is pretty much the whole point of the thread? so you're agreeing in one mind yet disagreeing with everything I have said about Bale being way out of line and that because of his foul language probably didn't even think of his audience in case someone leaked it out?

Good going there.

Hypocrisy 101 right here folks, popcorn at the ready etc.

It's funny how you seem to be up in arms over this, in part mainly to my posts though whilst everyone else is throwing their opinions about happily. Do you have an issue here? Are you in some ways a Bale fanboy?

No need to answer as I already have my mind made up about those.
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:( no i don't agree with anything you have said. sorry if this isn't clear in my posts but i don't agree with anything you have said about bale. I know that all we have heard is a few minutes of one guys life so should not pass judgment about him as we know next to nothing about what has happened. unfortunately many people seem to be anti bale picking at anything they can (i am not pro bale, just pro being fair and open minded)

you said "Commenting abbot a topic without hearing the audio clip itself is a bad move in this case..." do you not think that commenting about a topic without hearing anything but a 3 minute audio clip itself is a bad move? maybe hyopcrit 101 or whatever you just said. at least mine was on purpose :D

also it almost sounds as though you are complaining with what i have said (is this true?) yet i am (as well as others) giving you exactly what you want which is a discussion about this. sorry for trying to defend bale (though perhaps this was a mistake as he swore :eek: which is unprofessional obviously) but i still think you have totally been unfair with your harsh judgments taking a very narrow minded view to the situation. i have repeatable tried to point out how it was rather closed minded and i'm glad someone has posted a reference to someone explaining the situation a bit more which basically went against a lot of your assumptions, bale didn't say anything the first time, dp's are allowed to do make changes when he did etc.

people are far too easily influenced (e.g. daily mail) and things like this can really damage someone unfairly. bale is at a really great position which could be taken away from him because enough people will judge him unfairly. Even if you don't agree with what i have said can you understand why i have tried to get my opinion across? if you heard someone say something which was close minded would you not try to open their mind a little? perhaps you may even start a thread about it.
 
n1blo said:
He is an idiot because, in my view he got totally out of hand about the situation. Instead of pulling the guy aside and talking to him about what happened (like any decent person would do) he instead rants at him in front of everyone, when there is very little the guy he's screaming at can do. Back chat him? yeah at the cost of his job, so he just has to grin and bear it.
He is the "Big Man" right enough.
Oh and he's actually Welsh, therefore he's a Welsh man, talking in an American accent, and then slipping into a English overtone. :rolleyes:

P.S. NOO!! NOOOOOOO! DONT SHUT ME UP! hahahahaaha
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ah sorry didn't realise when you said idiot straight after the accent thing you weren't referring to the accent but instead how he reacted :)

tbh from hearing the audio it sounded to me like bale wanted to continue the work yet someone kept talking about it resulting in bale continuing the respond. if i read correctly bale did say something to the guy previously though so didn't just attack him out of the blue but after trying to first deal with him like a "normal" person.

i am still confused how the accent thing is a problem :( as i have said my brother is english yet he sounds canadian when he speaks sometimes and he has only been living in canada a few months. my grandma sounds french/german/american/english all day long as she has grown up in all those countries. whats roll eyes about that? without risking sounding like a broken record it almost sounds as though you picked no him for something which is not an issue. he is a professional actor, he has given so much to learning the accent of his characters that he now speaks it naturally :) good actor imo to put that much time into the role. when tdk came out i remember reading comments about how it's funny that he is always in and out of his american accent, yet now because of this is all negative comments about his accent being in and out.
 
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I don't need to explain myself for any reason whatsoever so will not do so any further than this post to you, keep that in mind because it's clear you still don't get it that Bale was on the heavier (wrong) side of the scale. Quite why you think he had grounds to act like that is beyond reason.

The discussion is about Bale's outburst of a highly unprofessional nature whilst that outburst was a complaint about someone else being unprofessional - Two wrongs do not make a right and I have a problem with that kind of person so there is no need to have to explain to you why I think it's wrong because it just is both logically and morally, end of.
 
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well, not specifically and idiot for changing between accents. It is however rather amusing, and I doubt I could take him seriously whilst he was ranting at me.
 
Bale went a bit too far with the "kick your ****!" comments etc, however imo he was more than justified in balling the guy out for walking about within eye line during a scene. The man in question Shane Hurlbut, has worked on numerous film sets in his short career and should know better, lesson learned and he certainly won’t be doing it again will he. :p
 
n1blo said:
well, not specifically and idiot for changing between accents. It is however rather amusing, and I doubt I could take him seriously whilst he was ranting at me.
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yeah thats true, i do struggle with my brother when he is telling me stuff yet in and out, it's pretty funny

not quite bale, I'm actually batman :D fighting for justice and all that. i don't think what i am saying is really taken on board unfortunately.


keep that in mind because it's clear you still don't get it that Bale was on the heavier (wrong) side of the scale.
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you are no longer continuing to discuss this as i disagree in how you made the comment when you made this thread for a discussion about bale, this is odd. surely making a thread to discuss this you were expecting different opinions and not everyone to start slagging off bale? you have got a discussion now want to end it?

i haven't said bale was on the right or wrong, you, along with others, have made a snap judgement on him without knowing much about the situation. i felt yours was one of the worst as you made a thread about it and i found it easier to quote you then everyone though i'm sure i have said numerous times it's not just directed to you, not just picking on you for the sake of it etc.
 
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Just want to apologise for the swearies included in a post I made earlier in this thread. I cut and pasted a segment from an article without paying due care and attention. I'm a total **** :rolleyes:
 
He's angry and I understand that but he also makes himself sound incredibly thick and childish, how another grown man just stood there and took that torrent of abuse I will never know.
 
Sweetloaf said:
He's angry and I understand that but he also makes himself sound incredibly thick and childish, how another grown man just stood there and took that torrent of abuse I will never know.
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Because he knows if he answered back, he could lose his job, his career and Bale could threaten walking out(temporarily) and cause delays by being an even bigger sexual organ than he was in the audio file leaked.

Bale also knows this and uses it against him, knowing the DP really can't say anything back, so he's acting like most women I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. Temper tantrums, schizophrenia, power play, mind games, whatever you want to call it. It wouldn't be a wonder if he actually had a vagina.
 
That's what you get though when you have a DP with such a weakness of character as not to be able to stand up for himself. No dignity.

What I also hate about this whole thing is the director takes sides with Bale, again another character flaw. Bale was the bully and tbh some one there should have just intervened and punched him in the face. He would prob get fired for it but he would make up the loss of earnings by doing press interviews about it.

Bale was one of my favorite actors and still is, but what happened here makes me think that some people's pre-existing personalities are the most crucial factor when they are cast for a role.
 
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