City Fibre

sithlord · 3 Oct 2023 at 23:01

Broken Hope said:
CityFibre have finally started to dig up my street, how long roughly does it take to go live?

Well over 12 months.

Nogimmix · 5 Oct 2023 at 07:27

After 10+ years with Virgin, I've finally managed to cancel them. On Monday I will be having Yayzi installed.

Has anyone with Yayzi, if so, what are they like?

jalzoo · 5 Oct 2023 at 11:07

Nogimmix said:
After 10+ years with Virgin, I've finally managed to cancel them. On Monday I will be having Yayzi installed.

Has anyone with Yayzi, if so, what are they like?

Have a look at this thread: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/talk/threads/yayzi-latency.40414/

Apparently their customer support is rubbish, There peering isn't exactly great, You will be under CGNAT unless you pay extra for the static IP.

check out their trustpilot: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/yayzi.co.uk

The only upside is your location is Kent so you should be routed directly through London so your latency should be good. It seems to be people up north being routed through Manchester that get the problems.

ChrisD. · 5 Oct 2023 at 11:10

Nogimmix said:
Has anyone with Yayzi, if so, what are they like?

Surely you should do this sort of homework before you sign up with an ISP?

For City Fibre I would personally be going with https://no one.co.uk/.

Broken Hope · 5 Oct 2023 at 11:50

sithlord said:
Well over 12 months.

Surely won't be that long considering lots of Nottingham is already live for CityFibre.

SixTwoSix · 5 Oct 2023 at 12:11

Pavement on the road that connects to my cul-de-sac all sectioned off with city fibre signage, hopefully soon.

Although, they might do a Virgin and ignore our cul-de-sac while connecting up every other road in the area.

Nogimmix · 5 Oct 2023 at 13:10

ChrisD. said:
Surely you should do this sort of homework before you sign up with an ISP?

For City Fibre I would personally be going with https://no one.co.uk/.

I did read up on Yayzi and while most ISP's get bad feedback on Trustpilot, I decided to go with them, mainly as a possible option to upgrade to 2.5gig in the future.

Anyway, now cancelled Yayzi and signed up with no one, which is being installed next Thursday. Thanks

sithlord · 5 Oct 2023 at 13:40

Broken Hope said:
Surely won't be that long considering lots of Nottingham is already live for CityFibre.

If they have already dug some of the town you might be lucky and get it in 6-12 months. They still have to do the other parts of town, install the equipment, get planning permission and test other things.

jalzoo · 5 Oct 2023 at 14:42

Nogimmix said:
I did read up on Yayzi and while most ISP's get bad feedback on Trustpilot, I decided to go with them, mainly as a possible option to upgrade to 2.5gig in the future.

Anyway, now cancelled Yayzi and signed up with no one, which is being installed next Thursday. Thanks

I would imagine most of the cityfibre ISP's will launch 2.5gb XGS-PON and for those who can't get it yet they will be launching 2gb over GPON by the end of 2023. Most isps don't show it on their page like yayzi do. It's a kind of sales technique to make you think their in front of the rest but its completely untrue.

For anyone interested here are the details of the ONT for the cityfibre 2gb and 2.5gb service: https://support.aa.net.uk/CityFibre_ONT

flea.rider · 5 Oct 2023 at 17:53

jalzoo said:
I would imagine most of the cityfibre ISP's will launch 2.5gb XGS-PON and for those who can't get it yet they will be launching 2gb over GPON by the end of 2023. Most isps don't show it on their page like yayzi do. It's a kind of sales technique to make you think their in front of the rest but its completely untrue.

For anyone interested here are the details of the ONT for the cityfibre 2gb and 2.5gb service: https://support.aa.net.uk/CityFibre_ONT

lol will never need those speeds .. just want city for the 900 as my connection should drop to 7-8ms

Si MPS · 6 Oct 2023 at 13:27

We're migrating all our kit to XGSPON because it allows us to get many more subs to an OLT, speed-wise/package-wise tho that's down to the consuming ISP.

XGSPON is just a better technology for split ratio, speed, power usage, the lot

jalzoo · 6 Oct 2023 at 14:46

Si MPS said:
We're migrating all our kit to XGSPON because it allows us to get many more subs to an OLT, speed-wise/package-wise tho that's down to the consuming ISP.

XGSPON is just a better technology for split ratio, speed, power usage, the lot

Is it costly for the ISP to upgrade to XGSPON?. Id imagine the startup is then more profitable in the long term?.

Si MPS · 8 Oct 2023 at 09:43

It's not cheap but from a future-proofing point of view and a differentiation POV, the business case writes itself really.

Megahackerd · 8 Oct 2023 at 18:33

Si MPS said:
It's not cheap but from a future-proofing point of view and a differentiation POV, the business case writes itself really.

do it once or do it twice

Ewaf · 13 Oct 2023 at 10:41

GregI said:
Will be a great combo and work with no trouble.

See here:

This is from a DSL-AX82U but same thing. Set the WAN type to Ethernet, where it says 101 you put 911 and then the username/password you get from city fibre.

Sorry to refer back to an older post, but getting No One set up on Monday. Just to confirm, I don't use any other router with this right? I can just plugin whatever No One install into my ASUS router? I don't have to use the Mercku router No One have supplied, and put that in modem only mode or something like I do currently with Virgin Media?

Glanza · 13 Oct 2023 at 11:12

ONT directly into whatever router WAN port via cat5 cable.

sithlord · 13 Oct 2023 at 11:56

Ewaf said:
Sorry to refer back to an older post, but getting No One set up on Monday. Just to confirm, I don't use any other router with this right? I can just plugin whatever No One install into my ASUS router? I don't have to use the Mercku router No One have supplied, and put that in modem only mode or something like I do currently with Virgin Media?

I dont know about no one because Im with Voda. But you just plug the ethernet of the ONT into the WAN port and enter your details and change the settings in the ASUS router.
Its just a matter of getting your details correct.

Ewaf · 13 Oct 2023 at 12:00

Awesome thanks both!

MrRockliffe · 13 Oct 2023 at 12:01

Ewaf said:
Sorry to refer back to an older post, but getting No One set up on Monday. Just to confirm, I don't use any other router with this right? I can just plugin whatever No One install into my ASUS router? I don't have to use the Mercku router No One have supplied, and put that in modem only mode or something like I do currently with Virgin Media?

Just need to support PPPoE and VLAN ID 911

Then you’ll enter your no one username and password, which you get from their portal and then “my router”

Ewaf · 16 Oct 2023 at 13:30

Having a bit of an urgent issue. No one was working fine with their supplied router, trying to use my Asus rt ax82u but having no luck.

In WAN settings I can't see anywhere to put VLAN ID. What am I missing?

EDIT: OK, after finding myself on a random polish forum and translating the posts I found it. It's horribly hidden away.

If you're looking for the VLAN ID settings on the ASUS RT-AX82U, go to LAN > IPTV Tab. Change to manual setting and set all the VID to whatever you want, and priority 0. In my example I had to set it to 911.

Jeez that was horribly buried away.