Clarification on a Ladbrokes football bet?

[Weebull]

What's not true? I didn't state anything, I was asking.

Fair enough then I guess, I've never placed a football bet. I assume they wrote the date of your bet down then? Seems odd (buddum tisch) they wouldn't put the odds down too.

 

[Detroit_Waves]

You didn't specify any of that though, so he's still right. You were wrong.

I was wrong to not specify clearly on my slip my intentions. As to me, they were not known, which is my fault, I should have read the small print at some point to be made aware, that games are settled within 90 mins...again, I think for the 6th time now, I have said this from the start.

My bet however, the outcome I predicted for what I wanted, was nto wrong.

 

[jakeke]

I would have only been wrong had I have placed a bet on 90 minutes of play. As my predictions of three wins wouldnt have been true. I however, never bet on 90 minutes of play, I bet on a win at anytime, resulting in qualification.

Are you serious or on a wind-up? All bets are 90 minutes unless you specify otherwise. Just because you were ignorant to this fact does not change it.

So you basically asked him for 3 wins in 90 minutes. That is exactly what you asked. That did not happen. You lost.

 

[Weebull]

I was wrong to not specify clearly on my slip my intentions.

Which is pretty much exactly what jakeke was saying.

 

[Gilly]

I would have only been wrong had I have placed a bet on 90 minutes of play. As my predictions of three wins wouldnt have been true. I however, never bet on 90 minutes of play, I bet on a win at anytime, resulting in qualification.

No you didn't. You bet on a win, not qualification.

 

[Detroit_Waves]

What's not true? I didn't state anything, I was asking.

Fair enough then I guess, I've never placed a football bet. I assume they wrote the date of your bet down then? Seems odd (buddum tisch) they wouldn't put the odds down too.

Sorry my apologies, I thought you were making a statement regarding odds on horses, not asking...sorry!

And no, I placed the date in the top right corner, which is what I do with all bets, so there is a reference to the date of play.

yeah, they should have put the odds down, as they usually do on other bets I placed. But to be honest I dont question when they dont do something, as I assume if they dont do something, then there is a reason why, and I dont want to question them on a job position I dont really know about.

 

[Detroit_Waves]

No you didn't. You bet on a win, not qualification.

The manager within the shop didn't believe so, he took my bet as to qualify, so maybe you need to take that up with him. I had no effect on the payout, only he did.

I said I bet to qualify, the manager of the shop said that I bet to qualify...the only person not involved in the betting process, yourself..believes I didnt.

I know who Im going to believe...

 

[jakeke]

He's obviously done it as a one-off and to keep you a happy customer, not because you were correct :/

 

[Detroit_Waves]

He's obviously done it as a one-off and to keep you a happy customer, not because you were correct :/

Youre right...bookies are infamous for paying out on bets are incorrect...

And...PLEASE read above. I never went in an unhappy customer. I never complained, argued, or played dumb. I went in with a slip, to ask questions and place more bets. I was told it would be paid. Therefore no act of keeping me happy took place.

 

[jakeke]

Ok, it just seems strange that they'd happily pay out on a losing bet (and not only pay out, they'd go through the trouble of turning it into a winning bet and changing the odds into a winning bet)

All seems bizarre.

 

[fozzybear]

You must lose a lot of money in that particular shop. That's probably why the management decided to pay you on this bet. They didn't want to lose your custom!

 

[Detroit_Waves]

Dude, seriously you need to read through the whole post.

The odds were never changed! They were never stated in the first place. Due to this, the computer raised it as a loss, even though it was a win, therefore it had to be altered to be paid. Not my words...the managers. I can only tell you what I was told by him.

 

[jakeke]

In that case it's even stranger, the odds are usually stated. How would he know when you placed the bet and what the odds were at the time?

 

[Detroit_Waves]

You must lose a lot of money in that particular shop. That's probably why the management decided to pay you on this bet. They didn't want to lose your custom!

Nah, I only bet with 2 pound, once or twice a week at max on the football. Im not going to be able to rack up massive losses with that even if I tried

 

[Detroit_Waves]

In that case it's even stranger, the odds are usually stated.

To which Ive stated above a couple of times, I completely agree with you. I dont normally pay too much attention to what they do behind the counter, however the times I have paid attention, they usually check on their screens for the odds and write them on the slip.

For whatever reason this time, they did not. Im not sure why, as, I really dont pay too much attention to what they do, as there are enough screens in there to keep my eyes busy for days.

 

[jakeke]

Sounds like the guy who placed your bet made a gaff and you misunderstood the rules of betting. Can maybe see a case for why the Ladbrokes guy caved, but I still maintain you placed a losing bet, not to your knowledge, but you did

 

[Detroit_Waves]

I didnt misunderstand the rules of betting. I just never made myself aware of them, as due to the other amounts of bets I have made on league games, there was no reason for me to think otherwise. Not knowing this however, is clearly and obviously my fault, I have never denied this.

The ladbrokes manager never caved, I told him I had lost or so I thought based on the information I was given here at the start, he told me I had won.

And even if I was unaware of an incorrect bet. Had it of been incorrect, it wouldnt have been paid..Again, thats not me telling you, thats the manager of the ladbrokes telling me, hence why it was paid.

To be honest either way, correct or incorrect bet, for whatever reason it got paid at the amount it did, which was a nice surprise, and in future I will be writing to win at any time and to qualify, on all bets that are not league games. Im not really fussed either way.

 

[Snooble]

Nice one! Glad you got a payout. I would have accepted it as a loss, but ignorance is bliss.

 

[el_dazza]

In that case it's even stranger, the odds are usually stated. How would he know when you placed the bet and what the odds were at the time?

Odds on "to qualify" markets or 90 minute outrights fluctuate very little before a game, unless a side is playing a weakened side.

E.g Spurs were 11/8 to beat Arsenal, the bookies then found out they were playing their kids and changed it to 7/4. This actually happened last night.

If a bet is placed in-play and you place a bet in the shop, you must state it's in-play and ask the cashier to write the odds on the slip at the time. I nearly fell foul of this once, assuming it was all timestamped and they could trace it back. I had 3 darts game, 1 in-play, 2 later on in the evening. 11/10, 4/7 and 11/4. They all won, netting me £123.75, but they paid me out £15. I was told because I didn't get the in-play odds, it's discounted from the bet. I argued this saying I knew the odds and was unaware that it's not "captured" at the time as such. They did pay me out after 30 minutes of arguing with them, thankfully. I was right and I bloody know I was.

 

[jakeke]

Yeah I know they don't fluctuate a lot, but sometimes they do change enough to affect an accumulator in a noticeable way, especially in the CC when teams are unpredictable.