code masters plans for f1 2011?
- Thread starter arknor
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Doesnt help with PS3 of 360 though does it, which is what they seem to be talking about here. Doing this on PC would fail, people would pick game up cheap then add the extra tracks themselves without paying for them
2011 won't get cancelled the AFAIA the license is already paid for. And the thrilling season this year means more people will have an interest for the start of next years F1. Despite the 360 and PS3 making a good deal more money for codes that the PC the PC market still isn't to be sniffed at.
Actually it is a pretty good game!
Soldato
Would be an aweful idea IMO. As for F1 2011, they'd need to address some of the issues that made F1 2010 so frustrating and then it'll actually be quite a good game.
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Do you have a source for that or have youjust made it up?
If this type of system came into play then I would expect that the in-shop half would cost 50% or 75% of the original price, and the DLC would make up the rest. To think that they expect you to pay $10 per track for a game like F1 aimed at a casual gamer is silly.
Soldato
It was made up.
An article here talks about it...
http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/11/1...-list-of-companies-that-hate-pre-owned-games/
its pretty much the going rate considering COD map packs can at 2 maps from an old version of the game and charge about the same
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If they sell half the game, at half the price, what's the problem?
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To be clear, I'm not really a fan of CM either, I can't remember the last time I bought a game made by them. However, this kinda stuff *is* coming. The Mass Effect 2/Dragon Age one use DLC from EA/Bioware is the thin end of the wedge.
I'd actually quite like it if they released track packs before the races but only if it totalled no more than £30. It would be nice to have F1 2011 at the start of a season too. I can't see this happening though. And if they did change their business model it would end up costing us more that's more sure :-/
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The one game i can think of at the moment that has done a similar type thing and managed to do it right is The Sims. In The Sims you get a base game which is perfectly good on it's own but then they release several expansion's which add a number of things which improve upon the game (over and above a simple patch) plus the fact that you can install one, several or all depending on your preference and they are usually the half price of what the base game cost when new.
Of course in any F1 game or others it's going to be done different but if the overall cost to download everything (in an F1 2011/2012??game) is going to be more that the avergae full price of a new game then i can't see it working.
Personally though i'd rather just pay £30-40 and buy the full game on disc and be done with it.
Of course in any F1 game or others it's going to be done different but if the overall cost to download everything (in an F1 2011/2012??game) is going to be more that the avergae full price of a new game then i can't see it working.
Personally though i'd rather just pay £30-40 and buy the full game on disc and be done with it.
2 plus 3 new ones. While I think the amount charged for DLC is ridiculous and the quality of the MW2 map packs (or the first one at least) was appalling for what you paid, let's not lie about it.
I've disliked codemasters for a while now and this just proves it I was right. It began with the Americanization of the dirt series DUUUUUUDE!
Then Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising was pathetic on the PC, with the multiplayer practically unplayable, but they didn't give a ****.
To me they are in 2nd place behind Activision for my most hated game company.
Then Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising was pathetic on the PC, with the multiplayer practically unplayable, but they didn't give a ****.
To me they are in 2nd place behind Activision for my most hated game company.
The problem is the retailers. Their focus is mostly on pre-owned sales because that's how they make their biggest profits. Get gamers to trade in their games for a fraction of the new cost, then put the game back on the shelf for a fiver less than brand new. Rinse and repeat making a large profit every time.
Of course fewer new games get sold that way, but then it doesn't matter if the greedy publishers don't sell many new games does it?
I work in games. Personally I've got nothing against selling games second hand, or your right of resale (something I'm annoyed isn't allowed with PC games, especially as we rarely get demos to try out on our hardware). But the retailers have distorted the entire market by focusing on used games and promoting them over new. They're essentially pawn shops specialising in video games. And one of the reasons for the decline of PC games in high street retail is you can't sell them second hand due to DRM and CD keys. The retailers can only sell a PC game once, but they can sell the same copies of console games over and over again.
It's ludicrous the way they do it. Imagine going into HMV to buy Avatar on Blu-Ray and you had difficulty finding a new copy, because the used shelves took up over half the shop. Then when you found a copy the sales assistant kept pushing you to buy a used copy instead for a couple of quid less, and asked if you had any other blu-rays to trade in while you were at it. That's the current customer experience when purchasing video games from a high street game store.
I don't think the major movie studios or book publishers would stand for it either if second hand films and books were promoted in high street stores the same way second hand games are.
But I agree, locking off huge portions of the game and selling them as DLC isn't a good way to do it. As a gamer myself I'd much rather they added value by giving free stuff to legit customers - like Valve do.