Confirmed: Windows Blue Will Be Free, to Be Called 8.1

I am looking forward to seeing this, as at the moment Windows 8 is a bit of a pain to use on a desktop (or laptop) PC without a touch screen monitor.

It has to be worth a look anyway!

I'm in this camp. On touch enabled devices W8 is very clever, but on multi monitor desktops, which I have at work and at home, it brings nothing new except a bunch of annoying niggles. I'm hoping W8.1 sorts this so I can finally jump aboard.
 
Exactly, it's super short so if you're a Mac user you're almost on a subscription model anyway unless you want an obsolete system. The security updates are arbitrary and incomplete for older versions.


MS has lost the phone and tablet war so they got to do something and it looks like they are going the apple way.



Looking forward to seeing exactly what this brings.

Won't be anything very good or new :(
 
Exactly, let the public have the choice. If the new interface is an improvement its supporters have nothing to worry about.

It's not that straightforward, though. If it was supported, you can bet your house OEMs would deliver Windows 8 in its "classic" configuration and the Metro/WinRT stuff would get sidelined.

Default decides.
 
It's not that straightforward, though. If it was supported, you can bet your house OEMs would deliver Windows 8 in its "classic" configuration and the Metro/WinRT stuff would get sidelined.

Default decides.

Meaning that the new interface is obviously not all that popular. Generally there are good reasons why things aren't popular, one of the fundamentals is the fact that the old Start Menu was not broken so no need to fix it!
 
Meaning that the new interface is obviously not all that popular. Generally there are good reasons why things aren't popular, one of the fundamentals is the fact that the old Start Menu was not broken so no need to fix it!

I disagree that it has much to do with being popular or not - the OEMs would do it to save hassle (read: money) If I was selling PCs I'd do the same.

Why shoulder the support burden when you could just re-enable the classic shell? They don't care about growing an ecosystem from scratch, they just want to shift PCs efficiently.

And Microsoft don't get a free pass on the support issue. I said at the time it wasn't enough. Some of the stuff that's coming in 8.1 should have been there from the start.
 
Meaning that the new interface is obviously not all that popular. Generally there are good reasons why things aren't popular, one of the fundamentals is the fact that the old Start Menu was not broken so no need to fix it!

HP to the rescue with their semi-decent start replacement.
 
I can't think of a good reason why a user wouldn't care about having the strongest possible app selection available for the operating system they just purchased.

1. Backwards full screen app interface, can't multitask properly
2. Not wanting Microsoft to control 3rd party software
 
1. Backwards full screen app interface, can't multitask properly
2. Not wanting Microsoft to control 3rd party software

I'm not understanding how this relates to making Metro optional/bringing back the Start menu in Windows 8?

It's fine to have a negative opinion of the changes. But if an individual user has such strong feelings about it, I don't see why they wouldn't just install a 3rd party solution or stick with Windows 7?
 
1. Backwards full screen app interface, can't multitask properly
2. Not wanting Microsoft to control 3rd party software

I still struggle to understand your difficulty in multitasking on Windows 8.

I use it every day, and have multiple applications running simultaneously with no issues whatsoever. No different to Windows 7 in fact.
 
That's what they are doing, hence why Windows 8 has flopped and Microsoft are being forced to backtrack.

Have you got sales figures to say it's flopped as there are plenty that say the contrary.

Putting an icon in the corner you click anyway is hardly back tracking.
 
I still struggle to understand your difficulty in multitasking on Windows 8.

I use it every day, and have multiple applications running simultaneously with no issues whatsoever. No different to Windows 7 in fact.

He's moaning that you can't multi task on the start screen... You never could multi task on start, merely launch but it appears that is irrelevant.
 
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