Confirmed: Windows Blue Will Be Free, to Be Called 8.1

Infidelus said:
Would you rather I wrote 'Desktop Application'? I've been calling them Windows 'apps' since well before the cool kids with their overrated fruit based phones started oohing and aahing at the new touch wizardry.

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As did I :p. But personally I've stopped now as the definition of app is now something different.
 
ubersonic said:
Sorry I've been working all night, that's sarcasm right? :P
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MSN used to be a nice compact window you could move around and resize. In that form it takes up a big chunk of real estate with massive font and loads of unused space. What is the point?

Why put resources into making metro apps? Is it to tap into the massive windows 8 tablet market that doesn't exist?

The only thing that is making use of space is the desktop, put two metro apps side by side and its obvious how little information is on screen.
 
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ubersonic said:
Sorry I've been working all night, that's sarcasm right? :P
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No. I thought you were being sarcastic lol :D

You don't need a whole band of vertical resolution to show a few chat messages. It's a bloated and padded mess.

You can just guess the thought process MS had with this crap.

Junior Dev: Look at all this space we're wasting, are we going to fill the whole space with messages?
Senior Dev: No you idiot, just pad out the messages, increase font size, and add as much whitespace as possible. This way it looks like more but is actually less just like Apple love doing
 
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Minstadave said:
The only thing that is making use of space is the desktop, put two metro apps side by side and its obvious how little information is on screen.
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Exactly.

The only reason people like it is simply because its just an illusion to the untrained eye.

When you pad out the **** and add tonnes of whitespace as with Metro, the human mind still thinks you're getting the same amount of information. When the mind starts to digest the information it realises that it's easier to do, therefore it automatically likes it.

Also I love how something with small font and streamlined interface is now "something from the 90s" and massive icons, unnecessarily massive fonts and tonnes of empty space is the future. :D

Just proves my point of dumbing down.
 
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Minstadave said:
It's one app per screen really though isn't it, with a side bar that you can't change the size of, and with quite a few of the apps I've just tried doesn't do anything useful when sat in the sidebar, for instance:

[ of proper windows management is vital.
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The app has to be programmed to make use of it, in 8.1 it is split into qaurters, so you can half and half, or 3/4 &1/4 etc. then you can do taht and still multi task on desktop.

S no, you were plain wrong you can multitask and it isn't one per screen.
 
Nonsense, its one full app and one cut down sidebar - it's a terrible, backwards window management system wasting huge amounts of screen space - even with the screen split into quarters it will still be terrible.

The link to modernmix shows a much better way of managing windows if you really want these apps.

The system may work on a tablet but it's ergonomics make no sense on a PC screen.
 
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It's not nonsense at all and stop back peddling, you were wrong, you simply didnt have a clue about snap or how snap would change in 8.1
It is multitasking and it totally depends on the app designer how its implemented.
I use it snap regulars and love it. Far better than fiddling around resizing windows (although I do that as well when needed and can still do that in win8) you have lost nothing by going win8 and gained snap and a lot of other things.
 
I posted pictures of how it works :confused: there is no back peddling, I said one full screen app, yes you can have a sidebar, the pictures on this page demonstrate how crap that is.

You can call it multitasking, though I guess if you want to be a pedant you can call it bitasking. My point is that it is dumbing down usage to one/two apps, which is a big step backwards.

You may love it, but surely it is evident that it is really very limiting and wasteful.

Yes you can ignore it entirely, but that doesn't mean it's a good system.
 
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It's not dumbing down at all, it depends how the app is programmed, which depends how the developer things it will make the best use of the space, some just haven't bothered. Some apps have full capability, and you have still lost nothing from desktop, which isn't going anywhere.

And you are back peddling you said it couldn't multitask it can, you didnt even say anything about bit asking, so pull another one another person on an It forum who hasn't spent 5minutes reading the spec list or watching any video clips be it official press releases or youtube how tos.
 
Dear god, you can't multitask effectively on something that lets you have two windows open, therefore you can't multitask properly.

I'm not sure what the spec list has to do with anything, I posted the pictures! Open your eyes man.

If you're happy with it great, you must like the giganta-phone effort, but to me it's poor, can we leave it at that?
 
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Of course you can multitask properly. I didnt realise multitasking had to be an infinite amount of windows, not that you can have that on any system.
This is not what you said anyway.
 
This is tedious. It's exactly what I said, if you want to argue the point over it being one app and a sidebar or two apps on screen you care too much. However you look at it, it is a bad way of using a PC.
 
Yep, you don't seem to know what you wrote.

Why would I faff around resizing windows, when I can pin an app to the side and it takes 1/4 of a second to do.
I do this often when I have a spreadsheet or website where I'm entering data and need a calc. Calc is full function btw and guess what I can have as many windows as I want on desktop same as I always have, so how is this a step back?
What exactly have I lost? Oh wait I haven't lost squat and gained yet another tool, a tool that saves time and effort and works extremely well.

Same with twitter when I'm watching f1, no fafing about and works properly, as its designed for the space, not all desktop apps work well at all sizes.

Step backs means we've lost something, so what is it? Nothing, nothing at all.
 
Or more likely, try to do stupid things.
Use which or a combo for what works the best.
I use both sides and a combo of desktop and metro on snap screen.
Guess what it's far better and far more powerful than any windows before it.
I think you expect metro to do everything or its useless. Which is a totally stupid mind thought. It's aimed as media consumption for the moment (although as it evolves that's likely to change, several companies are already using surface rt tablets).

You have so many options simply use what is best. Lots of people seem to think its one or the other, for some bizarre reason.
 
Glaucus said:
It's not nonsense at all and stop back peddling, you were wrong, you simply didnt have a clue about snap or how snap would change in 8.1
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LOL. "Snap" out of all the things one cant have a clue about.

Just what I was talking about with this new influx of so called Windows experts. :D
 
Glaucus said:
Why would I faff around resizing windows, when I can pin an app to the side and it takes 1/4 of a second to do.
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Because you can get a more exacting fit therefore being able to control the layout of information more precisely for maximal efficiency?

Because it takes the same amount of time to drag a resize handle as it does to drag a "metro app" to the edge of your screen yet still allows you to have more control?
 
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