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:confused: 3dMark results are lower when i O.C. Asus Turbo GTX 1080 Ti 11GB

Personally I'd get a refund ASAP. A used GPU with no warrenty for £450 :eek:

A 2070 Super or a 5700XT with warrenty would be far better value. They're not as fast but is it really worth the stress and heartache of faulty goods? If you get this issue resolved, there could be something else wrong with it in 6 months.
 
I presume he bought it with a watercooling block already on which might be why it was 450. If not and bought one as well as the card.. Waterblocks for cooling gpus are expensive arnt they like near 80-100 quid? If he buys a 2070 super or 5700xt and he wants to watercool it then he would have to get a new waterblock too wont he which adds up. Unless im wrong and there cheap to get i dunno i never done it except a aio wc for a cpu once.
 
yeah a gpu waterblock can be £100+ new

and nzxt cam has been around for years

multi function software
includes fan control
led control==nzxt was first addressable leds i remember seeing with the hue+=now theyre all the rage
gives hardware info and allows overclocking i think
possibly other things too not used it in a while
 
Yeah, seems that somehow the GPU is capped at the base frequency (1481 MHz). See the min and max recorded by GPU-Z after 3 min of GPU-Z render then full 3DMark.
min:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LXVUpC6vhRjBHY98A

max:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eBq4NHD8uroVijWr8

The CAM from NZXT is a software what manage the fans connected in NZXT Fan Hub. And this soft also have a overclocking tab, thats why i uninstall it.


Its built into gpuz. As said, on ur screenshot u posted, see the ? near PCI info box near right side, click the ? that opens a new window and click start render test. Then go to sensors tab on gpuz and watch the clocks value go up and the red bar raise up.

Never heard of that cam software, i wouldnt use it tbh, id just use gpuz or hwinfo or afterburner, not all at the same time of course lol.
 
I think the 'unusually low' temps are consistent with a 1080Ti boosting only to 1500mhz. I agree with the people here saying that it might imply an incorrect reading - which is why we need to check the reason for potential throttle in GPU-Z. However, on a decent custom loop (which this is) I could easily imagine a short benchmark not getting out of the low 30s while the card is so underclocked.

Some things to do next:

1) Download the 'Heaven' benchmark and run it in a window on the extreme preset. That way you can take a screenshot of GPU-Z sensors for us while it's running. You can also go into the settings and log GPU-Z sensors to file; but I think Heaven+sensors+screenshot will be simpler and faster here.

2) Go to Nvidia Control Panel -> Manage 3D Settings, and then under 'Power Management mode' (scroll down) set it to 'Prefer Maximum Performance'.

3) It may not hurt to reinstall the graphics driver. Download the GeForce 441.87 driver, choose 'Custom install' when it offers, and then tick the box for 'clean install'.

4) Don't worry about overclocking for now. In Afterburner, hit the big 'reset' button in the middle to remove all clock offsets. Then drag the power slider to maximum. Don't do any other overclocking (right now we aren't even at stock clockspeeds, so our problem won't be solved by overclocking alone).

I'm pretty sure the card is a genuine 1080Ti. It's true that sometimes ebay sellers will spoof a 1080Ti by using a bios on a different card. However, your results are entirely consistent with a 1080Ti stuck in a lower power mode and not boosting to its full clocks. So I think you do have a 1080Ti, we just need to get it boosting correctly.
 
I still wouldnt mine knowing what psu you have to see if maybe its at a limit as to how much power the card is wanting to draw when at 100% usage.

Make sure vddc is set to show what the max was too thats the power draw in volts i think.

The max mem clock is very high isnt it, shouldnt it be 13xx range?
 
Yes, in addition to the above, knowing the PSU would be good (and also the monitor for that matter, although I doubt it's a v-sync issue since the load did hit 100%).

Did you install any Asus software for the GPU? I note that they do have various modes like "Quiet mode" and other power states that might be influenced by fan rpm. Since your fan is off, there could also be an issue of some Asus Tweak software interfering here.
 
Yes, in addition to the above, knowing the PSU would be good (and also the monitor for that matter, although I doubt it's a v-sync issue since the load did hit 100%).

Did you install any Asus software for the GPU? I note that they do have various modes like "Quiet mode" and other power states that might be influenced by fan rpm. Since your fan is off, there could also be an issue of some Asus Tweak software interfering here.
His fans off/zero rpm
Because gpu is watercooled
No fans
Assuming you mean zero rpm in gpuz that is
 
His fans off/zero rpm
Because gpu is watercooled
No fans
Assuming you mean zero rpm in gpuz that is

That's exactly my point. Because he's watercooling, his fan isn't plugged in since he has a waterblock. Hence zero rpm. However, some vendor software gets the gpu stuck into lower power modes when the fan is off. This happens even with newer cards - for example check out the overclock.net threads where people had to plug fans into their 2080Ti Lightning despite using full coverage blocks, just get the cards to work properly (and even flash properly).

It's a long shot but something to consider - for the purposes of this troubleshooting therefore, I recommend we uninstall all Asustweak-type software, if there is any present.
 
Yeah remove any tweaker oc types of software and just keep gpu-z, install fresh drivers using ddu to clean the old ones out fully and when installing new drivers do custom install and only have ticked the driver and physx, not 3d vision or gf experience.

Good point of the fan thing about it thinking the fans not working so its forcing a limit as its confused somehow.
 
That's exactly my point. Because he's watercooling, his fan isn't plugged in since he has a waterblock. Hence zero rpm. However, some vendor software gets the gpu stuck into lower power modes when the fan is off. This happens even with newer cards - for example check out the overclock.net threads where people had to plug fans into their 2080Ti Lightning despite using full coverage blocks, just get the cards to work properly (and even flash properly).

It's a long shot but something to consider - for the purposes of this troubleshooting therefore, I recommend we uninstall all Asustweak-type software, if there is any present.

Yeah get what you mean
Wasn't sure if it was that you meant or just seeing 0 rpm in gpuz
Haven't experienced any sort of throttling myself because of 0 rpm but of course there's hundreds of different gpus so anything is possible

Would be nice to see if unigine heaven or valley or Firestrike or timespy etc is doing the same though
 
In the meantime i did a DDU and now i am in the intalling Nvidia driver process. Should i chose Driver + GeForce Experience or just the driver?
The PSU is ok! Its a Seasonic 750 PLus Gold, and anyway... since i didnt hit any voltage settings while o.c. not the PSU should be blamed
Yes, i had Asus G-Tweak II installed, yesterday... trying to sort out this problem.
So, better to install just the driver or GeForce experience as well?
Thank you so much for your help!

l.e. i installed just the driver, not GeForce Experience
 
After DDU then clean install of Nvidia driver, then I ran the Unigine Heaven in "Extreme" preset for about 2min while monitor with GPU-Z.
The same, the GPU is stucked in base frequency. I mean its capped at base frequency, is not stucked.
 
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After DDU then clean install of Nvidia driver, then I ran the Unigine Heaven in "Extreme" preset for about 2min while monitor with GPU-Z.
The same, the GPU is stucked in base frequency..

So whilst it's doing that, is the "GPU Load" holding close to 100%?

And during this period, what does "PerfCap Reason" say?
 
The power is only 0.700v when running it? Thats idle power draw, its not going up. That would be my guess at the cause. Something is preventing it from drawing full power that it needs. The fan header on the gpu could be limiting the power draw if not attached, i dunno for sure but like the guy above said somewhere it could be that. That or maybe something wrong with the pci-e cables that you attached to the card. There in, arnt they?

You have taken off any overclock now havent you, on core or mem or volts?

If perfcap says idle then its in idle mode the gpu so wont boost.

Also just want to make sure of something, when you did DDU did you do it in safe mode or normal windows mode?
 
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Could be the pci-e slot, try switching it from the one its in to the other one on your mb.

But i asked before and dont think you said.

Is the windows, in control panel/power settings, on balanced or high performance? As theres a setting in there somewhere (custom plan/adv settings) that controls the pci-e link state power management, mine is off make sure urs is off too. Reboot after finishing setting that then retest stuff.
 
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