:confused: 3dMark results are lower when i O.C. Asus Turbo GTX 1080 Ti 11GB

Psycho Sonny · 13 Jan 2020 at 09:02

beberobu said:
Buy it from a friend of a friend. Paid £450 for. How can i figure out if is a fake or not?
Cheers!

A used 1080ti for £450?

You do know you can get a 2070 super brand new for £400? After you sell cod for £30.

I would personally hand it back and buy that.

If you want advice on overclocking. The 10 series of cards work best when running cool on the core. If you are water cooled up the voltage.

As for memory I personally would test every 50mhz increase because they run slower the faster they get after a point.

beberobu · 14 Jan 2020 at 00:10

Hi pals, i tried in this morning to post but i wasnt allowed because i reached 15 posts in 24H. So....
I reinstalled the Windows 10 last night then I flashed the vbios, put that one you advised me but unfortunately the problem remain the same, while im running 3DMark (now i dont know why unigine is not runnning anymore) the VDDC goes in max 0.7930 and GPU core maxim 1480.5 MHz and so on...
Adding to that, the Chrome browser wasnt working, even reinstalled.
Mine is ending in .22, the other one is ending in .01

https://photos.app.goo.gl/o4PNX79ZTTidTYjY8

So now i just flashed back my vbios and at least chrome seems to work properly.

Wednesday i will receive water cooling spare parts to be able to bypass the GPU with the hoses and then i will be able to try other PCI-E slot and also to put the original air cooling system and to go further in this game.
In the meantime, if anyone here wants to play, this is my vbios: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nu-ua781xnU3fnGaP06omVyO7J5aB__U/view?usp=sharing
Im not able to cook such a pie, is too much for my currently knowledge.

Cheers!

Mcnumpty2323 · 14 Jan 2020 at 00:46

beberobu said:
Hi pals, i tried in this morning to post but i wasnt allowed because i reached 15 posts in 24H. So....
I reinstalled the Windows 10 last night then I flashed the vbios, put that one you advised me but unfortunately the problem remain the same, while im running 3DMark (now i dont know why unigine is not runnning anymore) the VDDC goes in max 0.7930 and GPU core maxim 1480.5 MHz and so on...
Adding to that, the Chrome browser wasnt working, even reinstalled.
Mine is ending in .22, the other one is ending in .01

https://photos.app.goo.gl/o4PNX79ZTTidTYjY8

So now i just flashed back my vbios and at least chrome seems to work properly.

Wednesday i will receive water cooling spare parts to be able to bypass the GPU with the hoses and then i will be able to try other PCI-E slot and also to put the original air cooling system and to go further in this game.
In the meantime, if anyone here wants to play, this is my vbios: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nu-ua781xnU3fnGaP06omVyO7J5aB__U/view?usp=sharing
Im not able to cook such a pie, is too much for my currently knowledge.

Cheers!

Hi again

Just to let you know I had 15 post limit too
It's only meant for new members but guessing you joined a while ago but hadn't posted much or something?
It did last 30 days but moderator dropped it to 20 days for me
So now I have no 15 post limit
Hopefully yours ends soon as its very annoying
But it's to stop new members Bot spam attacking the forums

Maldoror · 14 Jan 2020 at 01:34

You did well on the vbios flash (and re-flash), so you're learning fast

Shame it didn't help but was definitely worth a try.

Things to try would remain the different PCI-E slot and possibly the effect of plugging either the original air cooling back in, or - if you can reach the plug - something into the gpu fan header to see if that brings it out of idle mode.

How long did you use the card with the air cooler? Presently I'm assuming that the card was boosting correctly on the air cooler since it hit such high temps, though we of course can't be 100% sure that it was ever boosting properly since the time you got it. £450 is a fair amount for a used 1080Ti with a blower cooler, since it's about as fast as a 2070 Super which is only £50 more for a new one (technically the 1080Ti still edges out the 2070Super over a wide selection of games but it's a very close thing). At that price it should definitely be working properly.

Psycho Sonny · 14 Jan 2020 at 10:17

Maldoror said:
You did well on the vbios flash (and re-flash), so you're learning fast Shame it didn't help but was definitely worth a try.

Things to try would remain the different PCI-E slot and possibly the effect of plugging either the original air cooling back in, or - if you can reach the plug - something into the gpu fan header to see if that brings it out of idle mode.

How long did you use the card with the air cooler? Presently I'm assuming that the card was boosting correctly on the air cooler since it hit such high temps, though we of course can't be 100% sure that it was ever boosting properly since the time you got it. £450 is a fair amount for a used 1080Ti with a blower cooler, since it's about as fast as a 2070 Super which is only £50 more for a new one (technically the 1080Ti still edges out the 2070Super over a wide selection of games but it's a very close thing). At that price it should definitely be working properly.

no it isn't a fair amount.

it's a second hand card - no warranty.

2070 super is also £430 with COD for free. so it's £400 once you sell COD.

the 2070 super is just as fast and will get faster with driver updates and is brand new.

a fair amount is £300 or less preferably £250 for a blower card personally i'd rather pay £400 for a 2070 super with warranty with much better cooling.

no need to water cool the 2070 series mine runs at like 55C whilst gaming.

stooeh · 14 Jan 2020 at 10:37

Lol I think he just meant 'a sizeable amount'

beberobu · 14 Jan 2020 at 13:08

Hi pals!
Today i got the fittings so ive been able to move the GPU out of that PCI-E slot.
First, after i bypass-ed the GPU watercooling was to mount back the original (air) cooling system. And with that one i mount back the GPU on the same PCI-E slot. Results: THE SAME (GPU dont boos, using Unigine Superposition benchmar and double check with GPU-Z recordings)
Then, ive moved the GPU on the next PCI-E slot (x8) and the result: THE SAME (GPU dont boos, using Unigine Superposition benchmar and double check with GPU-Z recordings)
Then, ive took out this amazing shaity GPU and ive put back my old GTX 970 4GB, on the X16 PCI-E slot. The result: the GPU boost to 1300-ish... from 1088 (for core) (using Unigine Superposition benchmar and double check with GPU-Z recordings)
SO... this GPU have a problem. The problem could be in his vbios or could be a physical one. If any of you is keen to find out i can send post it then of course i will pay the post back and the beers as well! Otherwise i will put it on ebay with mentions that is not boosting.

By the way: please, if you dont mind, of course, stay focus on what matter, not what my girlfriend can do / buy with that amount of money, if i like it, what i can do with that amount of money and so on....
Cheers, you are absolutely fabulous, all of you and i like you!

stooeh · 14 Jan 2020 at 13:32

That's unfortunate, thought the vbios change would have fixed it

If you know someone else with a PC you can plug it in to rule out a mobo compatibility issue then I would try that before you offload it.

Mcnumpty2323 · 14 Jan 2020 at 13:58

Not done it in a long time
But vaguely remember something to do with pressing ctrl+f in afterburner and setting some sort of voltage curve?
Though newer versions of afterburner might make that obsolete I don't know

Could try flashing the Asus oc card bios to it
If it didn't work would need a second card or integrated graphics to recover it
Might be a bit risky though have done that sort of stuff years ago not done it lately

Psycho Sonny · 14 Jan 2020 at 14:16

beberobu said:
Hi pals!
Today i got the fittings so ive been able to move the GPU out of that PCI-E slot.
First, after i bypass-ed the GPU watercooling was to mount back the original (air) cooling system. And with that one i mount back the GPU on the same PCI-E slot. Results: THE SAME (GPU dont boos, using Unigine Superposition benchmar and double check with GPU-Z recordings)
Then, ive moved the GPU on the next PCI-E slot (x8) and the result: THE SAME (GPU dont boos, using Unigine Superposition benchmar and double check with GPU-Z recordings)
Then, ive took out this amazing shaity GPU and ive put back my old GTX 970 4GB, on the X16 PCI-E slot. The result: the GPU boost to 1300-ish... from 1088 (for core) (using Unigine Superposition benchmar and double check with GPU-Z recordings)
SO... this GPU have a problem. The problem could be in his vbios or could be a physical one. If any of you is keen to find out i can send post it then of course i will pay the post back and the beers as well! Otherwise i will put it on ebay with mentions that is not boosting.

By the way: please, if you dont mind, of course, stay focus on what matter, not what my girlfriend can do / buy with that amount of money, if i like it, what i can do with that amount of money and so on....
Cheers, you are absolutely fabulous, all of you and i like you!

Can you not take it back to who you bought it from?

Then go buy a 2070 super?

Maybe also ask on here next time before buying?

Sounds like a issue with the gpu if it's not boosting and a 970 is.

That rules out a software issue IMO. Must be hardware. You bought an overpriced duff gpu. You learnt this lesson the hard way. Don't buy second hand unless very very cheap.

Maldoror · 14 Jan 2020 at 17:23

Psycho Sonny said:
no it isn't a fair amount.

Sorry, I meant "fair amount" as in "a fair bit", i.e. rather a lot

You're completely right that I should watch turns of phrase like that though, especially since not everyone we help on these boards will be a native English speaker. Hopefully the rest of the comment made that clear, anyway.

But of course I don't want to criticize where the OP spends his money or how much. My point is more that a 'friend' charging £450 for a 1080Ti with stock blower cooler should mean that the card is working 100% because that's not bargain basement value when a new 2070S goes for £500. So this is a card that should have been boosting correctly and may indeed have been doing so at the time it was initially obtained (since it got to 84C under load). Which makes me still think there might be some way to fix it.

I don't know how much a used 1080Ti with a broken boost clock would sell for on ebay (I don't ebay much). If it's not worth much (which I assume it isn't), I'd still be tempted to go through a whole bunch of vbioses to see if one of them clears the issue. I've seen that happen before.

On the other hand, a 1080Ti at 1480mhz will still roughly match 1080/1070ti stock performance. Which is still very playable in games, especially at 1080p.

Mcnumpty2323 · 14 Jan 2020 at 17:32

Yeah I would try the Asus 1080ti oc bios
If the op is anywhere near me would be happy to have a mess around with the card
And yeah I wondered whether would take a big hit on ebay and lose a lot of money
Probably paid about £70 for a byski block on top of what he paid for the card too

Occurred to me years ago you could mod your own bios~maxwell bios tweaker I think it wad
I did it for my gtx970
Seems nvidia blocked doing that now sadly
But a quick read seems to suggest you can cross flash any gtx1080ti bios
Even the xoc 1.2v one
Though that's a bit riskier though people with custom loops seem to do it

beberobu · 15 Jan 2020 at 00:24

Leeds area, Pontefract more precise.

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Yeah I would try the Asus 1080ti oc bios
If the op is anywhere near me would be happy to have a mess around with the card
And yeah I wondered whether would take a big hit on ebay and lose a lot of money
Probably paid about £70 for a byski block on top of what he paid for the card too

Mcnumpty2323 · 15 Jan 2020 at 01:01

beberobu said:
Leeds area, Pontefract more precise.

Few hundred miles south of you unfortunately

beberobu · 15 Jan 2020 at 01:05

If you want i can post it....

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Few hundred miles south of you unfortunately

Mcnumpty2323 · 15 Jan 2020 at 01:17

beberobu said:
If you want i can post it....

That's an expensive card to be posting to someone you don't know
And quite possibly all I could try is Cross flashing a different model bios on it
We have covered pretty much everything we can think of so far
You flashed a bios already so could pretty much try a different card bios

The xoc bios seems to remove voltage limits which may be of use
But also may carry a risk
I only had a quick read on 1080ti cross flashing earlier and saw it
Either that or we are missing something obvious
So forgive me if I ask something already asked or basic as it's late
You did tick voltage unlocking in afterburner options/settings ?

beberobu · 15 Jan 2020 at 01:48

Yes, at some point i did it. I will reinstall now afterburner and try again. As i remember didnt help at all and as i remember as well each time when i tick the "power" slider, after i applied the modification, few seconds after that the windows freeeze and was necessary to reboot. Each time.
Can you give me a hint / help for flashing an xoc vbios, when you have few minutes, please!?
Cheers!

Mcnumpty2323 · 15 Jan 2020 at 01:58

beberobu said:
Yes, at some point i did it. I will reinstall now afterburner and try again. As i remember didnt help at all and as i remember as well each time when i tick the "power" slider, after i applied the modification, few seconds after that the windows freeeze and was necessary to reboot. Each time.
Can you give me a hint / help for flashing an xoc vbios, when you have few minutes, please!?
Cheers!

Just off to bed now it's late
But going to check afterburner tomorrow /today lol
As still something about voltage curves in my mind either by pressing ctrl+f or by pressing a tiny little icon just to right of big gpu speed and memory speed~it looks like mobile phone signal strength icon~3 bars

And could the person who owned it have tried doing a shunt mod using liquid metal? ~same stuff as used for cpu cooling

beberobu · 15 Jan 2020 at 02:29

I reinstalled the MSI Afterburner now and the same behaving i got, when i hit the voltage (first i unlock it and put kernel mode and third party) or the power slider the voltage shown is 0 (Zero) and the windows start to freeze for seconds, then work 2 sec then again freeze and so on.
I will give up on this GPU. Is useless to ask him!
Cheers!

SkeeterUK · 15 Jan 2020 at 05:40

Maybe buy a normal fan cooler stick it on the card if it boosts either keep or sell and just move on to a diff card would be my suggestions at this point.