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Considering drop in upgrade from 1700X to 5800X3D

danlightbulb

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Im on an Asus Prime X370-Pro ATX motherboard. The motherboard and CPU was bought as a bundle package from a competitor back in January 2018 for £305. The 5800X3D is around £315 new.

The Asus support page does say that the 5800X3D is supported with the latest bios update - but there is supported and there is capable. Is my motherboard capable of running the 5800X3D i.e are the VRMs and overall board capability sufficient?

It seems that this will be a very good upgrade if it works.


Alternative options would be 5600 at only £137
5700X at £180
5800X at £230

Thanks
Dan
 
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It "should" be fine. This article may interest you. They installed a 5800x3D in a bunche of B350 and X370 motherboards (yours included) and tested them alongside a X570 board to find out if there was any performance loss and they found that at most there was only a very tiny difference at times. Your board beats the X570 in a couple of tests.
 
Thanks I just watched a Hardware Unboxed video that did a similar thing.

Seems like a good plan to extend the life of my system by at least another 5 years.

Question is now whether I go for the 5800X3D or the 5700X which is the more value oriented upgrade.

My use these days is mainly seated VR sims and some strategy games, so I think could benefit from the 5800X3D.
 
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danlightbulb said:
Thanks I just watched a Hardware Unboxed video that did a similar thing.

Seems like a good plan to extend the life of my system by at least another 5 years.

Question is now whether I go for the 5800X3D or the 5700X which is the more value oriented upgrade.

My use these days is mainly seated VR sims and some strategy games, so I think could benefit from the 5800X3D.
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5800X3D
 
Is it likely the price of the X3D will come any lower than current £315? There's still quite a large gap between that and the 5800X at £230 or 5700X at £180.
 
danlightbulb said:
Is it likely the price of the X3D will come any lower than current £315? There's still quite a large gap between that and the 5800X at £230 or 5700X at £180.
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I went from a 5600x to a 5800X3D and noticed a significant change to min FPS which is what's best about the X3D CPU imo. If you're looking to extend the life of your current system for a few years then I'd go for the best option out of those you have listed.

Don't get me wrong, the uplift in performance from a x1700 to a 5600-5800x would still be immense but since the X3D CPU is the last and best gaming CPU for AM4 I think it's best suited to getting a lot more mileage out of your current system. Just keep going over benchmark videos and see if it's worth it for you.

Edit: Since the X3D is the last AM4 CPU to be released and is very popular still, I don't think it will be coming down much.
 
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danlightbulb said:
Im on an Asus Prime X370-Pro ATX motherboard. The motherboard and CPU was bought as a bundle package from a competitor back in January 2018 for £305. The 5800X3D is around £315 new.

The Asus support page does say that the 5800X3D is supported with the latest bios update - but there is supported and there is capable. Is my motherboard capable of running the 5800X3D i.e are the VRMs and overall board capability sufficient?

It seems that this will be a very good upgrade if it works.


Alternative options would be 5600 at only £137
5700X at £180
5800X at £230

Thanks
Dan
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What speed does your DDR4 run at? You might bottleneck a 5800X3D if your not running the ram at least 3200.
 
Freddie1980 said:
What speed does your DDR4 run at? You might bottleneck a 5800X3D if your not running the ram at least 3200.
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Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz C16 2x8Gb. On my existing system it was unstable at 3200 so I have it running lower. I never determined if this was a CPU, RAM or MB issue.
 
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danlightbulb said:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz C16 2x8Gb. On my existing system it was unstable at 3200 so I have it running lower. I never determined if this was a CPU, RAM or MB issue.
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Chances are it will be the CPU. Those first gen ZEN CPUs could be very flaky on running high speed memory. My 1700 never ran stably with RAM above 2933MHz. Since I swapped the 1700 for a 3900x I've never had an issues running the RAM at 3200MHz.
 
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danlightbulb said:
Done my bios update and ordered the 5800X3D, coming tomorrow. Will be good upgrade see a few more years life out of my system for sure.
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Good choice, it should last that little bit longer than it's non-3D vcache siblings. I'm still very impressed by the longevity of AM4, to get high-end performance on a motherboard bought 4+ years ago was unthinkable not that long ago.
 
danlightbulb said:
Thanks I just watched a Hardware Unboxed video that did a similar thing.
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Steve from Hardware Unboxed also works with/at Techspot...that's why lol
You'd find that the video and the article are exactly the same...because Steve wrote the article :p

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PS how are you finding the mouse?
 
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For what it's worth, I recently upgraded my work colleague's system, with exactly the same motherboard to the 5800x (non-3D) It went fine & he's had no problems.
 
danlightbulb said:
Im on an Asus Prime X370-Pro ATX motherboard. The motherboard and CPU was bought as a bundle package from a competitor back in January 2018 for £305. The 5800X3D is around £315 new.

The Asus support page does say that the 5800X3D is supported with the latest bios update - but there is supported and there is capable. Is my motherboard capable of running the 5800X3D i.e are the VRMs and overall board capability sufficient?

It seems that this will be a very good upgrade if it works.


Alternative options would be 5600 at only £137
5700X at £180
5800X at £230

Thanks
Dan
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Would recommend the 5800x3D and as a coincidence will be selling mine next week :P
 
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