'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

Glaucus · 12 Mar 2014 at 19:34

divaboy said:
So I ask again they were taken 3 days ago and they have only come to light now ? I've had a long day at work so have I missed something ?

They're satellite images, it takes time to go through all the images. So yes it only came to light today. Its not like there's just 10 images to look at. Things take time.

Tuppy_Glossop · 12 Mar 2014 at 19:36

China is probably trawling through all images post-disappearance in time order. They are rather big chunks of stuff if the size estimates are right.

Zairs · 12 Mar 2014 at 19:43

they is some bad images, what happened to all the super spy stuff everyone goes on about

Tuppy_Glossop · 12 Mar 2014 at 19:45

Pretty good from over 1000 miles away, imo

Lysander · 12 Mar 2014 at 20:15

Seriously, is it just me or does the BBC's Most Popular articles list look like something off The Day Today this evening?

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Doohickey · 12 Mar 2014 at 20:59

Apologies if already linked in this thread, but at least regarding 'black boxes' and recording of flight data, this is a sensible article:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/09/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-black-box

Atlas23 · 12 Mar 2014 at 21:21

Tomnod is very addictive

Also

“What happened here, if you believe this information [from the Malaysian military], was that the changing of course appeared to happen pretty much concurrently with the loss of the transponder,” Wallace said. “That has to suggest that control of the airplane was taken over by someone unauthorized.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...4edf74-a9d2-11e3-8599-ce7295b6851c_story.html

Lysander · 12 Mar 2014 at 21:54

“What happened here, if you believe this information [from the Malaysian military], was that the changing of course appeared to happen pretty much concurrently with the loss of the transponder,” Wallace said. “That has to suggest that control of the airplane was taken over by someone unauthorized.”

Or the pilot.

Doohickey · 12 Mar 2014 at 21:57

Why is the transponder even allowed to be turned off? Is there ever any reason why it should be switched off?

Reaper 392 · 12 Mar 2014 at 21:58

Blazin23 said:
Tomnod is very addictive

I know what you mean. However, with the scale of the pictures it is very hard to work out if something is relevant or not.

What do you think of the bright white dot slightly bottom left of centre in this map tile. It seems too square to be natural, but equally it could just be a bad pixel on the photo: http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/22562

Dunks · 12 Mar 2014 at 21:58

Zairs said:
they is some bad images, what happened to all the super spy stuff everyone goes on about

Wouldn't be very secret if they just handed out proper resolution images which would give away their satellite imaging capability

Atlas23 · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:04

Reaper 392 said:
I know what you mean. However, with the scale of the pictures it is very hard to work out if something is relevant or not.

What do you think of the bright white dot slightly bottom left of centre in this map tile. It seems too square to be natural, but equally it could just be a bad pixel on the photo: http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/22562

~~Can you print screen it (as it makes you uncover them all again )~~ nevermind it loaded upon clicking again

I found the same one as this guy though: https://twitter.com/hugwagner/status/443648666591440896/photo/1

But could just be two ships. I found quite a few (what appeared to be) whales!

Django x2 · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:04

Tefal said:
No, a missile would make masses of debris. More so than a crash as it would cause it to break up a lot.

apparently there are very string undercurrents in that region and planes have been lost before with wreckage found by fishermen but gone by the time investigators arrived.

Except when Flight KA007 got hit by two missiles and didn't break up at all, and stayed intact until it hit the ground....

Like that you mean?

Energize · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:07

touch said:
You dont need to bother with all the crash-proof, fire-proof stuff. Just stream the blackbox data + location data live via a satellite.

That way you'd always know where the plane is and you wouldnt need to wait until the black box has been recovered to figure out what happened.

The transponder data is streamed, but if there is a fire on board the aircraft it could cut out (as has happened before).

Atlas23 · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:15

Those low res debris images are on BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26554875

Reaper 392 · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:19

Reaper 392 said:
I know what you mean. However, with the scale of the pictures it is very hard to work out if something is relevant or not.

What do you think of the bright white dot slightly bottom left of centre in this map tile. It seems too square to be natural, but equally it could just be a bad pixel on the photo: http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/22562

Blazin23 said:
~~Can you print screen it (as it makes you uncover them all again )~~ nevermind it loaded upon clicking again

I found the same one as this guy though: https://twitter.com/hugwagner/status/443648666591440896/photo/1

But could just be two ships. I found quite a few (what appeared to be) whales!

having seen the possible escape slide pictures from twitter, the most that this could be is a small piece of debris. I also found a similar square (but not quite as big) at the very bottom edge of 21716 on the left hand side (possibly in the square below it) but i wont post it because its pretty much the same

spoilered so i dont have to resize it

*edit*
curse my lack of refreshing

Atlas23 · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:26

Well I've finished the entire map.. definitely got square eyes now

touch · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:49

Energize said:
The transponder data is streamed, but if there is a fire on board the aircraft it could cut out (as has happened before).

Transponder data is transmitted directly to the interrogating radar station though. If its out of radar contact then the transponder isnt broadcasting anything.

Taking the data that is being stored in the memory of the black box and streaming that via a satellite would make it much quicker to work out what has gone wrong.

StriderX · 12 Mar 2014 at 22:51

I dont get it, is there not a supercomputer for this stuff?

Tuppy_Glossop · 12 Mar 2014 at 23:18

touch said:
Transponder data is transmitted directly to the interrogating radar station though. If its out of radar contact then the transponder isnt broadcasting anything.

Taking the data that is being stored in the memory of the black box and streaming that via a satellite would make it much quicker to work out what has gone wrong.

ACARS already does that for engines and avionics systems. Expensive to implement the online black box.

Ninja edit: real cloud computing ?

'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

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