It might bench a bit faster at 1080p and that will be what the shills point to, like that res for anyone buying one of those cpu's is even vaguely relevant.
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It might bench a bit faster at 1080p and that will be what the shills point to, like that res for anyone buying one of those cpu's is even vaguely relevant.
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If only Asus had motherboard like maximus formula for AM4 I would by 2700X today...
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Hopefully with AMD getting more market share the motherboard makers will be more inclined to produce more models for ryzen and threadripper.
I would have thought they would have better looking designs for the 2xxx series but i guess not. Perhaps by the release of 3xxx series we will see more variety.
No reviews are done yet.
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Your money would be better spent on a GPU if you are after FPS
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0 even with an rtx2080ti
Probably 0fps at 2560x1440. Except if you play gsgo......
Even on the single thread heavy games like tww2 at 1080p, Intel showed that the difference is 2fps at high/medium settings with the 8700K. And one is working at 5ghz the other 4.7. And 2700X is trailing with 1fps at 1080p at 4.2ghz against 5ghz 8700K.
www.techspot.com/amp/review/1655-core-i7-8700k-vs-ryzen-7-2700x/page7.html
And that shows the deceit of Intel and why we should boycott them. On their benchmark it showed the 2700x doing 70fps, while with same card doing 108fps on independent benchmarks with same card.
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I wouldn't hold out any hope. The motherboard makers will be next and those prices will rise and rise. How anybody can afford a 4k gaming machine from the off these days is beyond me. I'm just so lucky to have my 2600k 1080ti setup as I feel that if I needed to start again now I simply wouldn't be able to.
Around 0-2 fps over an 8-core Ryzen 2700X. Literally.
After watching the video the incompetence of Principled Technologies is staggering. I'm not sure that there were any shenanigans listening to Bill, just poor testing methodology. Some of the issues Steve had were debatable really with regards to is a gamer who wants to get playing games asap going to worry about, but some issues were just terrible decisions. Hopefully they take this as a lesson going forward.
What I do agree with Bill about is the reaction. There should have been a reaction, but it seems as though there were people that were waiting for the release specifically wanting something to be wrong so they can kick off (as they probably wait for any company they have some beef with so they can go loco). On this forum for example the level of outrage gives the impression that there is a lot more to it for those people than just poor methodology. That's the whole rabid fan stuff I guess. Even with 30 odd years of PC enthusiasm it's still just a CPU. Also people like Steve thrive off this hysteria for views which is also an issue as I think it clouds things for them.
Hopefully PT accept the issues and get better in the future.
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Going by their written statement, they seem not willing to accept the issue and more about defending their choices. https://www.principledtechnologies....ng_PC_gaming_processor_study_interim_1018.pdf
In a way, they need to ensure they stick to their guns or lose confidence with their PAYING customers who are looking for a certain outcome.
There seems to be degrees of issues here:
- He flip flops between the audience being hardcore gamers, casual gamers and just normal people when convenient to align with the testing decisions. That's just having an out ready at all times
- There is the issue of acceptance of the testing scope which he mentions was dictated by Intel. At no point did he seem to indicate they reached out to AMD for review of the outcome and feedback
- They played loose and fast where possible (cooler, case, RAM) which was more of an Intel lead decision if I had to take a guess
The best way to describe PT for this particle instance would be "marketing lead testing." People expecting objective testing that's being paid for by a vendor who is dictating the scope of the test are quite naive. Accept it for what it is and move on. You'll have your answers on the 19th. In a funny way, all this outrage and I don't see a collective response by the community to release benchmarks since you can argue that Intel voided the NDA by releasing benchmarks through a select source. Let's see some real community effort.
Unfortunately, Intel's name in this whole thing has already been sidelined and the anger is being misdirected. Not saying the anger against PT is invalid, just disproportionate.
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Love the idea that 64gb of ram is a typical user config, he either has no clue or is detached from reality.
I'm in a similar boat. If there was a mATX x470 or a B450 which could comfortably run an 8-core I'd go AMD. All the boards are very budget friendly and don't really do justice to the CPU.
I've got circa a dozen B350/X370 boards that have been running 8 core Ryzen chips comfortably for over a year now. I can give you a list if you want. I've just got a CH7 that seems decent so far.
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Define do it justice? What is wrong with the ASRock B450M Pro4?
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On x470 there is still some great mitx tbh since mATX doesn't exist.
Personally moved to mitx (z370) for first time ever and my experience is solid not needing bigger board. Same applies to 2700x platform and even in the bigger x399 the mATX taichi going to be my choice. (cannot fit threadripper in mitx)
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If you put it in 'bench mode', reduce the core count by 50% or more and run slack memory timings, then maybe.
This Vid means nothing. The guy being interviewed does not have enough knowledge to answer the questions with enough depth. The wrong guy is sat there thus making the video useless as far as i am concerned.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/3374-principled-technologies-interview-intel-testing-concerns
The text version for people who don't wanna watch 3/4h of video
Actually no it's not, it's only some of the points.
The text version for people who don't wanna watch 3/4h of video
Actually no it's not, it's only some of the points.