Core 9000 series

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 3 Aug 2018 at 22:24

Drollic said:
Very few gamers would bother with more than 8/16 I think as you say.

I think games might have to start catching up with the core counts now!!

So we have gone from 4C/8T to probably 12C/24T being mainstream within three years. That is assuming AMD does not move to an 8 core CCX unit.

sadbuttrue · 3 Aug 2018 at 22:52

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I think games might have to start catching up with the core counts now!!

So we have gone from 4C/8T to probably 12C/24T being mainstream within three years. That is assuming AMD does not move to an 8 core CCX unit.

Three years is a bit optimistic for Intel to ship 12C/24T at anything below top tier

IT Troll · 3 Aug 2018 at 23:35

AthlonXP1800 said:
GIGABYTE Optimizes Motherboards Ahead Of Intel 9000 CPUs' Debut

https://www.gigabyte.com/Press/News/1631

LOL. Another manufacturer breaking the embargo.

Silent_Scone · 4 Aug 2018 at 07:20

gavinh87 said:
There is a clear gaming performance winner. Whether it's justifiable is upto the end user.
What grinds my gears is people complaining that it's hot, I'm sure all ryzen chips would be hot if they could manage to run at 5.0 too.

But alas, they don't. Because they don't really overclock, and it's not a great enthusiast platform. That's the reality. Heck, 10 cores at 4.8 here and no thermal issues. Ryzen is a viable alternative for gamers, it's not the second coming of Christ.

IT Troll said:
LOL. Another manufacturer breaking the embargo.

It happens. Normally also when someone whether it's in the community or not finds a workaround to enable other SKU, too. They want you to know their boards work before other vendors. I doubt it makes much difference, really.

Drollic · 4 Aug 2018 at 10:31

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I think games might have to start catching up with the core counts now!!

So we have gone from 4C/8T to probably 12C/24T being mainstream within three years. That is assuming AMD does not move to an 8 core CCX unit.

Depends what the console market does given games are predominantly driven by them with a few exceptions. Plenty of people on this forum are going to end up with cpus well beyond what's actually required until next gen.

gavinh87 · 4 Aug 2018 at 21:26

Gerard · 4 Aug 2018 at 22:11

gavinh87 said:

Bloody hell, ol Rich Leadbetter from Mean Machines is looks quite a bit older these days, he used to be known for his hair quiff. The early 90's seems so long ago

imginy · 4 Aug 2018 at 22:18

gavinh87 said:

wow some of them scenes the intel is faster at 1440p than the ryzen at 1080p

Gerard · 4 Aug 2018 at 22:44

imginy said:
wow some of them scenes the intel is faster at 1440p than the ryzen at 1080p

And in others there's really nothing in it, a lot of games don't really make that good of a use of multicore.

gavinh87 · 4 Aug 2018 at 22:49

Gerard said:
And in others there's really nothing in it, a lot of games don't really make that good of a use of multicore.

Hit and miss with AMD, as I've said all along. That gap will only increase with faster GPU's.

Perfect_Chaos · 4 Aug 2018 at 23:00

gavinh87 said:

Intel ahead there quite a bit if you want to keep a higher frame rate and have a high refresh monitor, in fact if it's like that next year I'll probably go with Ice Lake instead of Zen 2.

Gerard · 4 Aug 2018 at 23:09

gavinh87 said:
Hit and miss with AMD, as I've said all along. That gap will only increase with faster GPU's.

Or narrow substantially with ryzen 2 next year.

gavinh87 · 5 Aug 2018 at 00:02

Gerard said:
Or narrow substantially with ryzen 2 next year.

By that time the ryzen guys would have gone through 3 cpus just to try and match the gaming performance of a 7700k/8700k.
Value for money goes out of the window.

Gerard · 5 Aug 2018 at 00:22

gavinh87 said:
By that time the ryzen guys would have gone through 3 cpus just to try and match the gaming performance of a 7700k/8700k.
Value for money goes out of the window.

Matter of opinion, different reviews show different things when it comes to CPUs. Also depends on their testing and what games are used. Personally I'd say the 2700x is on par with at least a 7700k.

subbytna · 5 Aug 2018 at 00:41

Gerard said:
Matter of opinion, different reviews show different things when it comes to CPUs. Also depends on their testing and what games are used. Personally I'd say the 2700x is on par with at least a 7700k.

Careful now, you're saying that AMD are on a par with INTEL....that's heresy don't you know GAVINtel won't stand for that!!! No.....nosireeeee. None of that talk allowed

gavinh87 · 5 Aug 2018 at 10:11

Gerard said:
Matter of opinion, different reviews show different things when it comes to CPUs. Also depends on their testing and what games are used. Personally I'd say the 2700x is on par with at least a 7700k.

In some instances, yes. But there are many others where it is still behind. The gap IS closing. But changing a CPU 3 times is not what I'd call value for money especially just to get on par with intels gaming performance.
@subbytna every man and his dog know that AMD are behind intel in gaming. Its just fact. Even at 1440p in some titles.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 5 Aug 2018 at 13:31

subbytna said:
Careful now, you're saying that AMD are on a par with INTEL....that's heresy don't you know GAVINtel won't stand for that!!! No.....nosireeeee. None of that talk allowed

Wow,you must not be able to run any games with that setup - SB?! Unless you have CFL at 5GHZ you might as well only run Tux Racer!

gavinh87 · 5 Aug 2018 at 14:09

Here I am thinking we are all enthusiasts. 80% of this forum are cheap arses lol.

Phil2008 · 5 Aug 2018 at 14:33

At the end of the day intel has always been the king in in raw speed, appart from the amd64 days... so you amd fanboys, stop getting worked up about it and just accept it.

Im not on anyones side, I just buy the best cpu at the time of ordering regardless if its amd or intel.... I remember a few years ago amd saying there not going compete with intel and their cpu's were always going to be value for money?

DragonQ · 5 Aug 2018 at 14:51

Phil2008 said:
Im not on anyones side, I just buy the best cpu at the time of ordering regardless if its amd or intel.... I remember a few years ago amd saying they wasn't going compete with intel and their cpu's was always going to be value for money?

So you're buying a Core i9-7980XE if it wasn't mesh?