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Core 9000 series

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The Intel patches affect I/O mostly so the games which will be affected are open world games which stream stuff off the install drive and modded games. I play FO4 with lots of mods,and the patches made performance noticeably worse in certain areas of the map on my IB Core i7!! :(
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LePhuronn said:
Nothing's new on the 9000 series from what I gather, so the problems will remain.
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Yes, this is what bothers me and why I haven't bought into a new Intel setup since the bugs were discovered. The CPU space has been stagnant since the X99 release. The 8700k has breached the 5GHz barrier, which is excellent, but these bugs just flatten my enthusiasm for it.

If the 9000 series was the exact same as 8700k but with the bugs resolved, I'd buy into it.
 
eddiew said:
It's technically 33.3% more bugged than an 8700k ;)
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9000 series contains 4, 6 and 8-core processors and so in some cases will be less bugged than an 8700K. ;)

Intel previous stated that the 9th Gen CPUs due this year will have hardware fixes for Spectre. However the 4 and 6-core i3 and i5 CPUs from the 9000 series have been listed as being 8th Gen and still requiring mitigation in microcode. Hopefully the i7/i9 8-core will be a 9th Gen with the fixes in silicon.
 
IT Troll said:
9000 series contains 4, 6 and 8-core processors and so in some cases will be less bugged than an 8700K. ;)

Intel previous stated that the 9th Gen CPUs due this year will have hardware fixes for Spectre. However the 4 and 6-core i3 and i5 CPUs from the 9000 series have been listed as being 8th Gen and still requiring mitigation in microcode. Hopefully the i7/i9 8-core will be a 9th Gen with the fixes in silicon.
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The fixes were related for the real chip (9xxx) we were expecting this year at 10nm. (Cascade Lake)
Not CoffeeLake renamed CPUs, which still includes the issues with Spectre, Meltdown etc.

And for everyone who thought could be able to put the 8 core on their Z370 boards....

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z390-chipset-to-replace-z370-with-z370-going-end-of-life.html

Z370 is officially EOL.
 
Panos said:
The fixes were related for the real chip (9xxx) we were expecting this year at 10nm. (Cascade Lake)
Not CoffeeLake renamed CPUs, which still includes the issues with Spectre, Meltdown etc.

And for everyone who thought could be able to put the 8 core on their Z370 boards....

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z390-chipset-to-replace-z370-with-z370-going-end-of-life.html

Z370 is officially EOL.
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no if you read the microcode correctly the upcoming 8 core cpus have the same code as current 6 core coffeelake. Taken from Apex X 1602 bios:
"Intel CPU SKL 0xC6, KBL 0x8E, CFL 8 Core 0x96 / 6 Core 0x96 / 4 Core 0x8E"
 
BTVA said:
no if you read the microcode correctly the upcoming 8 core cpus have the same code as current 6 core coffeelake. Taken from Apex X 1602 bios:
"Intel CPU SKL 0xC6, KBL 0x8E, CFL 8 Core 0x96 / 6 Core 0x96 / 4 Core 0x8E"
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If you read the article, is down to the manufacturers to support the 8 core CPU....
 
Panos said:
The fixes were related for the real chip (9xxx) we were expecting this year at 10nm. (Cascade Lake)
Not CoffeeLake renamed CPUs, which still includes the issues with Spectre, Meltdown etc.
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Found the exact quote.

"While Variant 1 will continue to be addressed via software mitigations, we are making changes to our hardware design to further address the other two. We have redesigned parts of the processor to introduce new levels of protection through partitioning that will protect against both Variants 2 and 3. These changes will begin with our next-generation Intel Xeon Scalable processors (code-named Cascade Lake) as well as 8th Generation Intel Core processors expected to ship in the second half of 2018."

Not sure how that fits with these new 8th Gen and 9th Gen 9000 series.
 
IT Troll said:
Found the exact quote.

"While Variant 1 will continue to be addressed via software mitigations, we are making changes to our hardware design to further address the other two. We have redesigned parts of the processor to introduce new levels of protection through partitioning that will protect against both Variants 2 and 3. These changes will begin with our next-generation Intel Xeon Scalable processors (code-named Cascade Lake) as well as 8th Generation Intel Core processors expected to ship in the second half of 2018."

Not sure how that fits with these new 8th Gen and 9th Gen 9000 series.
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Yet no word for Variant 4.
 
to be honest, lots of z370 boards are based on z270 which already based on z170. If Intel allows, many good z170/z270 can run the 8 core pretty easily.
 
BTVA said:
so say if one manufacturer decides to support and from there has a marketing/competitive edge, other manufacturers wont follow?
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Intel announced that Z370 is EOL. First of all that is 9 month motherboards/chipset killed already.
Second they might not all be able to support the 8 core on other boards. Asus might do so on the Apex which clearly will be able to deliver the power.
 
Panos said:
Yet no word for Variant 4.
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Well that quote was pre-Variant 4. But I guess we are stuck with microcode fixes (Intel) and O/S patches (AMD) for that one. And that still won't be the end of it.

Gonna need an extra 2 cores just to run all the mitigations.
 
IT Troll said:
9000 series contains 4, 6 and 8-core processors and so in some cases will be less bugged than an 8700K. ;)

Intel previous stated that the 9th Gen CPUs due this year will have hardware fixes for Spectre. However the 4 and 6-core i3 and i5 CPUs from the 9000 series have been listed as being 8th Gen and still requiring mitigation in microcode. Hopefully the i7/i9 8-core will be a 9th Gen with the fixes in silicon.
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Huh. Well in that case if Intel are gracious enough to let them run on Z370 maybe I will pick up an i9 - if clocks don't drop. I'm confident my board can handle the watts, but I'm sort of expecting the 8-cores to be volcanoes with a tin lid.
 
IT Troll said:
9000 series contains 4, 6 and 8-core processors and so in some cases will be less bugged than an 8700K. ;)

Intel previous stated that the 9th Gen CPUs due this year will have hardware fixes for Spectre. However the 4 and 6-core i3 and i5 CPUs from the 9000 series have been listed as being 8th Gen and still requiring mitigation in microcode. Hopefully the i7/i9 8-core will be a 9th Gen with the fixes in silicon.
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That was when the 9th gen was going to be the new 10nm CPU, its not that anymore, its 8th gen renamed 9th gen.
 
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