Corsa Advice

I think we're all getting a bit carried away - it's his first car! He's probably what, 17-19? Chances are he's not going to give a damn about the merits of a Fiesta or Polo over a Corsa if he likes them that much. He'll have a set of wheels. He'll have freedom. I had a 39bhp (yes 39bhp. About half the horsepower of these hateful 1.4 Corsas ;) ) Fiat Cinquecento as my first car, but did I care? Did I heck. It was brilliant.
 
I think we're all getting a bit carried away - it's his first car! He's probably what, 17-19? Chances are he's not going to give a damn about the merits of a Fiesta or Polo over a Corsa if he likes them that much. He'll have a set of wheels. He'll have freedom. I had a 39bhp (yes 39bhp. About half the horsepower of these hateful 1.4 Corsas ;) ) Fiat Cinquecento as my first car, but did I care? Did I heck. It was brilliant.

I'm 18 and I damn well cared on my cars quality, and out-right refused a Corsa.
 
Indeed, not everyone is as enthusiastic though. If you start banging on to your average teenager about the quality of interior plastics and steering feel, their eyes will quickly glaze over
 
Whilst yes, realistically at this end of the market its about wants, what is more important is the safety, predictability and driving charateristics of the car.

In the first weeks/months of driving you want a nice easy to control car, so that roadcraft and awareness can take up most of your time - i fear personally with the corsa that he may well spend more time second guessing the gearshift or biting point, which could potentially be dangerous - think roundabouts and junctions.
It is also one of the worse handling options, which means that when he does decide to push it (and we all did, right ?), it could have some nasty concequences.

But again, thats just my opinion.

What to Watch Out For
Could have been a courier's car or a driving school car ('Engineering Education Trust' on the V5 = BSM).

Clutch cables can be troublesome (cheap to replace).

Heavier diesel engines promote high front tyre and suspension wear.

All Corsas prone to front suspension wear.

Check driveshafts for clonks by reverse turns in both directions.

Look for cracking around door hinges on 'A' pillars of 2-door models (also look for cracks in the paint on 'B' pillars - an MOT failure point).

eel front discs for grooves, 'shouldering' and wear.

Beware of any noises from the water pump.

Check front carpets for damp signifying failed heater matrix.

1.4s have suffered cat problems.

Short runs may lead to sticking valves on 16-valve models (usually cured by switching to a high detergent petrol).

See 'Recalls' about timing belt pulleys which need renewing at least every 40,000 miles. On 1.4 16v timing belt also drives the water pump, so if this fails it will lead to timing belt failure. Most likely reason for the water pump to fail is lack of water (coolant) so check this regularly.

On 16v engines EGR valve can gum up leading to hesitation while cruising.

Reports of repeated failures of heater matrixes.

Central locking can fail due to failure of a small, brittle, badly designed casting (part 90540614). Costs less than £6, but £50 + VAT to get it fitted.

Quite common for front section of exhaust of 1.0 12v to fail due to metal fatigue from vibration.

Poor starting of Isuzu 1.5 diesel may indicate the need to have the valve clearances re-shimmed. ECUs of Isuzu diesels prone to failure and cost £500 to replace. But there is a DIY Fix: Remove air intake pipe (2 clips + plug), Unplug the DCU. Unbolt the DCU (4x10mm bolts). Remove the back cover of the DCU. Re-do obvious dry solder joint in middle of PCB. Re-seal DCU. Replace components.
Recalls
1995: static sparking during refuelling. 1997 (1993-1996 1.4 & 1.6 16vs only - 27,000 cars): Possibility of plastic cambelt idler pulley breaking which can snap cambelt. 1998 (diesel K to N reg: 26,000 cars): live cable may rub against bonnet hinge, lose insulation and cause a fire; (1.0 12v, P to R reg: 8,000 cars): cable may touch engine inlet manifold. (Vauxhall Recall Helpline: 01582 427200) 1998: Vauxhall Corsa diesel (K to N reg: 26,000 cars): live cable may rub against bonnet hinge, lose insulation and cause a fire. (3/6/98.) Vauxhall Corsa 1.0 12v (P to R reg: 8,000 cars): cable may touch engine inlet manifold. (3/6/98: Specific Helpline: 01189 458500.)February 2000: Saftety recall to reinforce front seat rails and replace fatigued or worn front seatbelt buckles. 9/3/2001 500,000 cars recalled to fit re-inforcing plates to front seat runners to prevent rails from fracturing. 9/3/2001 also recalled again to replace seat belt buckles with quality assured buckles.
 
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Corsas are alright as first cars, but I wouldn't spend a significant amount of money on them.
My first car was a Corsa B and my Mum has a Corsa C 1.2 'SXi' which I drive now and then.

I found the interior to be a bit cheap and cheerful but don't really echo the sentiments mentioned earlier in the thread that it felt as though it was going to break apart in my hands. It was below par for the class but not exactly terrible.
The engine in my B was a 1.4 16v and was relatively nippy but not exactly quick. The 1.2 in my Mum's is terrible and just has no go to it at all, though.
Steering has zero feel and doesn't really give you any sense of what the car is doing. Even in the SXi with the alleged sports suspension or whatever it is.
The C honestly has the worst set of pedals I've ever had in a car too. I have to turn the radio down just so I know when the flipping thing is biting.
Driving position is rubbish but I'm 6'4 and the car is tiny, so to be expected.

On the plus side I do find the engines to be very reliable. My B started every time, nothing ever went wrong with the engine up until 100k when I got rid. I thrashed the poor thing on a daily basis. Have a mate who still has his 15 year old B and it's still going strong. My Mum's C has done 3 and a half years and 60k miles and hasn't had a single problem really.
Can't really help on common faults as neither mine or my Mum's have had any!
I wouldn't buy one but if he has his heart set on one then good luck to him. I still think you could do worse than to buy one as a first car.
 
[TW]Fox;14833912 said:
So why buy a crap one when a good one will cost him not a penny more?

Crap in our eyes, sure. But to many people, a car is a car. If one of my friends said they were buying a Corsa or a 206 yes, I would say that a Fiesta or a Focus is a better choice but I wouldn't waste too much time on it if it was falling on deaf ears, which I fear it would in this case.

Although, having never driven one, the amount of negate first hand reports here is quite alarming :eek:
 
At this kind of end of the market just go for the one you think looks the nicest....

Worst advice so far IMO

At this end of the market, looks are the LAST thing to be looking for

Reliability, safety, comfort etc should all be higher on the list of priorities
 
[TW]Fox;14833912 said:
So why buy a crap one when a good one will cost him not a penny more?

I think most of us agree with you fox.

However,

It's this persons first car. I (as many others did I'm sure) had a shed of a car as a first car.

But BEFORE I had even driven it I forgot how nice the car I learnt to drive in was and because this car was mine it was the best in the world.

Interior is shocking, I agree but do you think someone who hasn't experience much else from a drivers perspective AND someone who is going to have the "Its mine I love it It's the best" feeling going to care?

Corsa will be cheap to run and won't depreciate any better or worse than similar spec fiesta etc.

Would make a fantastic first car to be honest. Why? Because he wants it and you cannot disagree or argue with that.
 
I don't get the Corsa slating really. I've gone from a 1.6 Corsa Sport (modified admittedly) to a Golf 1.8 20vt (also a bit modified) and the jump wasn't that massive in terms of quality of car... Although I will admit to once being a bit of a Corsa fan (I've had a couple) and my second was one of the best I've driven (first was nowhere near as nice to drive), well defined gearbox (for a Vauxhall, better than my Golf!) compared to most Corsa B's, good pedal weight (all quite equal, not light but not heavy), steering was crap mid corner (PAS), super light and no feel one min and then heavy and no feel the next :-S It'd grip to an extent but it didn't feel confident on the corners even lowered, 15" wheels, low profile tyres etc.

Had no bother with the Corsa but B's seem a bit more solid inside than C's I agree.

C's do feel wooly also... BUT. Cheap, reliable... depends what you expect and how much you intend to pay for maintenance I guess. Cheaper than a Fiesta to fix IMO. Far more reliable than French stuff, but not as reliable/super cheap to maintain as a Corsa B.

I think for driving ability/feel - Fiesta. For general reliability and cost effectiveness the Corsa does do the job well.
 
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It's up for £2,995, I'll push for 2.5-2.6k do people here think thats reasonable? Parkers seems to think so from a reputable dealer.

I've stopped reading here, my GF brought a 56 plate Grande Punto with 21k on the clock still in warrenty for £1000 more.

They are so stupidly overpriced for what is a terrible car (and yes I've had experience with them).
 
I had one, oddly enough people kept trying to nick it.

Now that I'm got the good points out of the way, the bad bits are that the pedals dont seem to align with the drivers seat quite right and your leg will feel odd after an hours drive. the seats are the most unforgiving uncomfortable things I've ever had the displeasure of sitting on, and I have plonked my arse down on a sleeping Pitbull before. At least the pitbull licked my hand after going mental on my back. The Corsa just gives you a sore arse and back, usually cramp too for good measure. There's no damn space at all in the footwell so if you have big feet, just forget it. It rattled a lot around the dash I I never could locate the source. There's also **** all legroom in the back, for what my passengers told me.

Oh wait, I forgot a good point, The door cards do actually come off rather quick if you want to replace the electrified aluminium pie tins that they inserted into the doors as speakers as standard. Its like a 5 minute job.
 
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I don't get the Corsa slating really. I've gone from a 1.6 Corsa Sport (modified admittedly) to a Golf 1.8 20vt (also a bit modified) and the jump wasn't that massive in terms of quality of car...

Putting some stickers down the drivers door of the golf should sort that out, and add some eyebrows to give you something truly special.

Not driven in a corsa, but been a passenger a few times. I can't remember the C being all that horrific, it was the B that was a POS tin can :D
 
Never ever mention a Corsa on OCUK it has been decided at some point in time that they are the work of the devil and there is no reason to own one, all you get is ludicrous one sided responses which rarely if ever offer any decent reasoning.

I had a bottom of the range (and I mean absolute poverty spec) 1.2 P reg Corsa for about 4 years in that time I took it from less than 40K to well in excess of 100k so I think I'm reasonably qualified to say that it wasn't a bad little car. In that time the only money I needed to spend on the car other than servicing and MOT was a few tyres an exhaust and new pads and discs. It cost me peanuts to buy peanuts to insure and peanuts to run and was still worth a couple of hundred quid trade in when I got rid of it. It wasn't super sporty but it didn't fall off the road everytime I went round a corner or even give the impression it might, it wasn't super luxury on a long drive but I could drive it non-stop for seven hours without it or me dieing or the need of a two day recovery period at the other end. My parents at the time had a couple of Fiestas which I've driven quite a lot and they were nice but not particularly better than the corsa just different.

At the end of the day if you want a cheap car to get from A to B that won't cost the Earth to run then there is no reason not to have a Corsa lets be honest he's going to want rid of what ever he buys in the next couple of years so his best bet is to spend as little as possible.
 
Thats all well and good that you owned one and it didnt burst into flames or spontaneously crash for no reason, but nobody defending the Corsas has yet to explain why it is actually better (for the same money) as a Fiesta
 
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