COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

jonneymendoza said:
What about tropical countries that see these kinds of temperatures every day of the year and rely on air-conditioning?
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There is a slight excuse there, but many of the locals do not use it and our ancestors managed without. It is a known fact that it does contribute massively to power demand and should be the last resort in building design to maintain temperature. Unfortunately massive construction was also deemed expensive as cheaper lighter materials were substituted.
 
Hagar said:
There is a slight excuse there, but many of the locals do not use it and our ancestors managed without. It is a known fact that it does contribute massively to power demand and should be the last resort in building design to maintain temperature. Unfortunately massive construction was also deemed expensive as cheaper lighter materials were substituted.
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Yep. Most people try and avoid using AC if they can as it is expensive as well.

A lot of buildings in the Med are well built to allow breezes and keep the heat out.
 
Hagar said:
Airconditioning is a major contributor to global warming and climate change. In addition it will hit you in the pocket.

The UK is in a temperate zone and does not need Airconditioning except for a few days a year
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Think having a fever in potentially 40c counts as one of those exceptions, that temperature is far above normal for this country.
 
Freefaller said:
Ah. That makes sense. Quite a shock for your part of the world especially if you've never acclimatised to warmer climates. Fair enough!

Hope you're not too badly affected and able to get through it ok.
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Ah, it's nothing more than an annoyance. I get fairly sleepy and want to nap a lot, and sweating from underarms like a bloody pig! Hopefully there's a nice breeze on Tuesday so the 27-29c isn't murderous.
 
Hagar said:
There is a slight excuse there, but many of the locals do not use it and our ancestors managed without. It is a known fact that it does contribute massively to power demand and should be the last resort in building design to maintain temperature. Unfortunately massive construction was also deemed expensive as cheaper lighter materials were substituted.
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Depends what country.

In Philippines. It’s widely used by the locals as its becoming quite affordable to buy one there
 
Dis86 said:
Have you even read the tripe you linked? Many of the sources are circular, basically citing one another as evidence. I cannot find quite a number of the so-called studies listed. Others are not talking about the masks being ineffective at preventing COVID transmission (look at just how many pre-date 2020 for a start) but are talking about negative impacts of mask use such as it being harder to understand people.
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I have, there are multiple reasons besides the obvious ones (i.e. normal face coverings having gaps many times larger than a virus body) for face coverings to be detrimental to health rather than be of any real benefit.

I've no doubt that something like ffp level may offer a degree of protection but the requirement was never asked of the public. Just a face covering, which could have been any old piece of fabric.
 
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the problem is certain standards of facemasks were not mandated - but even if they did, proper face fitting still needs to be done which does need to be learned. Also people do struggle to be heard with them on, and if you want to take a sip of water you have to remove it, and then make sure you put it back on properly.

People just don't wear them properly so they're not effective - and as such people think they don't work - a properly fitted mask I think probably are effective, but as the whole pandemic shows it's down to people really.
 
MatteH Oxford said:
I have, there are multiple reasons besides the obvious ones (i.e. normal face coverings having gaps many times larger than a virus body) for face coverings to be detrimental to health rather than be of any real benefit.

I've no doubt that something like ffp level may offer a degree of protection but the requirement was never asked of the public. Just a face covering, which could have been any old piece of fabric.
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Freefaller said:
the problem is certain standards of facemasks were not mandated - but even if they did, proper face fitting still needs to be done which does need to be learned. Also people do struggle to be heard with them on, and if you want to take a sip of water you have to remove it, and then make sure you put it back on properly.

People just don't wear them properly so they're not effective - and as such people think they don't work - a properly fitted mask I think probably are effective, but as the whole pandemic shows it's down to people really.
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I dont know why this has to keep being explained to people. You wear a mask mainly to protect others from you spreading the virus, it also stop you getting a full face full of others.

People not wearing masks in certain enviroments is just selfishness but that does seem to be the type of country we increasingly live in now.
 
Tony Edwards said:
I dont know why this has to keep being explained to people. You wear a mask mainly to protect others from you spreading the virus, it also stop you getting a full face full of others.

People not wearing masks in certain enviroments is just selfishness but that does seem to be the type of country we increasingly live in now.
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I didn't suggest not wearing masks? Nor did I suggest anything to the contrary?

I said that the way people wear masks and their quality is linked to their effectiveness. Surely you'd want to protect yourself from inhaling stuff too?

Not sure why the blood pressure raising was needed against me.
 
Freefaller said:
I didn't suggest not wearing masks? Nor did I suggest anything to the contrary?

I said that the way people wear masks and their quality is linked to their effectiveness. Surely you'd want to protect yourself from inhaling stuff too?

Not sure why the blood pressure raising was needed against me.
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I should have maybe put the response over the top quote, but you cant be that delicate that you think that was agressive in any way.

Do I have to start putting a smiley at the beginning and end of my posts in GD?
 
Interestingly I gave blood yesterday and no one was wearing masks other than a handful of the nurses which I thought was strange. Even then not all nurses were. The ventilation system was just standard A/C.
 
Tony Edwards said:
I dont know why this has to keep being explained to people. You wear a mask mainly to protect others from you spreading the virus, it also stop you getting a full face full of others.

People not wearing masks in certain enviroments is just selfishness but that does seem to be the type of country we increasingly live in now.
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Why don't you wear one of those bulky filtered masks, that keep practically eveything out. That way you don't have to concern yourself with what other people are (or aren't) wearing. They cost about £30 and last for a month.

Or would that be too much of an inconvenience?
 
Freefaller said:
The point is they come into contact with a lot of people. And for NHS workers it seemed odd to me.
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It seems to be workplace dependant for some reason. I was in my hospital a few weeks ago and all there were was a sign saying 'please wear a mask' which a lot of people were ignoring (except the doctors and nurses, I wonder if they know something...) whereas yesterday I was in a hospital in London where masks were very much compulsory for everyone.
My local doctors, nothing, a friends doctors, compulsory masks...
 
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