COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

There have been numerous cases of countries that have been flooded with cases whilst simultaneously mandating mask wearing (and having a strong compliance to the rule too).

Wear a mask or don't. You're still going to get covid at some point regardless.
 
RossGReds said:
There have been numerous cases of countries that have been flooded with cases whilst simultaneously mandating mask wearing (and having a strong compliance to the rule too).

Wear a mask or don't. You're still going to get covid at some point regardless.
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That's really not a valid argument for not wearing something that helps protect you or others.

Lots of people still get hit by a car even though they look both ways and pay attention to the roads.
Otherwise you could just as easily say "Look both ways before crossing the road or don't. You're still going to get hit by a car at some point regardless."

Actively choosing *not* to do something which has significant evidence to suggest it will help would be considered foolish at best, reckless at worst.

Do you choose not to wear your seatbelt?
 
Devilman said:
That's really not a valid argument for not wearing something that helps protect you or others.

Lots of people still get hit by a car even though they look both ways and pay attention to the roads.
Otherwise you could just as easily say "Look both ways before crossing the road or don't. You're still going to get hit by a car at some point regardless."

Actively choosing *not* to do something which has significant evidence to suggest it will help would be considered foolish at best, reckless at worst.

Do you choose not to wear your seatbelt?
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Everyone is going to get/has already had covid, regardless of the precautions taken. Very few die in a car crash.

I know you was trying to make some sort of arguement, I just don't know what it is.
 
Duke said:
Weekly update on the dashboard, all going the right direction still - https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk.
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Be interesting to see what happens as we get into the winter season for this kind of virus.

IMO the virus has now largely passed through most of the population most vulnerable to previous and existing variants but a new variant may yet change that and some people may get it again once the vaccine conferred protection against more severe outcome wears off. But personally I think we've seen the bulk of the damage the virus could have managed to do in concentration and future outbreaks are likely to be smaller intensity.
 
RossGReds said:
Everyone is going to get/has already had covid, regardless of the precautions taken. Very few die in a car crash.

I know you was trying to make some sort of arguement, I just don't know what it is.
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There is a problem with assuming that just becacause "everyone is going to get it" that we should just stop trying to take precautions, and that is the way that it's starting to look like the more you get it, the more likely you are to have serious long term issues.

Apparently in the medical profession in the states, especially that parts where they deal with mental capacity they're noticing how many people seem to have cognitive issues and changes in behaviour after infection, whilst in a study to see how people were coping after "recovering" from covid they ended up having a lot of difficulty in finding people who had in fact fully recovered months laters, because they'd get into the screening questions and find that people who counted themselves as recovered were in fact still in a majority of cases having one or more problems they didn't have before covid, or where still unable to do their normal pre covid routine (things you don't think about until you get questioned fully).

One of the problems with covid is, that we know it screws with your brain and organs, but much of the time that sort of damage doesn't become a serious problem until you get older (when young you've got a degree of spare capacity that can cover issues), but if you're say doing a little damage every time you get infected then you really don't want to get infected repeatedly as that damage adds up until it's no longer something you're "recovering from", and in the case of potential brain damage that's really bad news.
 
Werewolf said:
they're noticing how many people seem to have cognitive issues and changes in behaviour after infection
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It probably isn't the cause but I've noticed a scary decline in driving standards since the pandemic with an increased number of people compared to what I've been used to over the years who seem to exhibit cognitive issues and inability to focus/pay attention for any length of time.

Also discovery that the virus can use a unique method for crossing the brain barrier https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abo0171
 
Tephnos said:
Have yet to have covid and will continue to wear a mask for as long as possible, thanks. Not even BA.5 could strike me down.
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Still don't seem to have had it yet neither has anyone in my household or closest family so I'm guessing we've not had it asymptomatic either.

Only a tiny number of us at work who've seemingly not had it so far with plenty of people at working even have had multiple bouts of it now - I wonder what the difference is.

One of my colleagues who still doesn't seem to have had it was initially very cautious but since the end of 2021, especially around Christmas, threw caution to the wind with reckless abandon and was going to lots of Christmas parties, theatre, etc. (making up for lost time kind of thing) and still doesn't seem to have had it despite all their family having had it.
 
RossGReds said:
As long as possible? It's your choice. So you'll be wearing one forever then.
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Or until the mutations reach a point where massively diverging variants are no longer possible, and the available vaccines have enough cross coverage to protection against infection via yearly boosters.

Probably only a few years out from that, I'll manage. I've been hospitalised from a viral infection once before, I'm not so foolish as to think rolling the dice will work in my favour after already losing once.
 
I do wish disposable masks should never be sold to the public. Many do dispose of these properly. But a few leave them in supermarket trolleys, toss them to the ground outside medical establishments etc.

I have never seen anyone dropping a mask. If I did, I would say to them, would you mind picking it up. It’s a truly disgusting habit.

Then a fellow litter womble posted a photo with a bird with mask wrapped around its feet. Some have even died. All because of some lazy ignorant idiot couldn’t be bothered to put mask in a bin.

Also due to the many different materials in these disposable masks, they will take years to break down.
 
Rroff said:
Still don't seem to have had it yet neither has anyone in my household or closest family so I'm guessing we've not had it asymptomatic either.

Only a tiny number of us at work who've seemingly not had it so far with plenty of people at working even have had multiple bouts of it now - I wonder what the difference is.

One of my colleagues who still doesn't seem to have had it was initially very cautious but since the end of 2021, especially around Christmas, threw caution to the wind with reckless abandon and was going to lots of Christmas parties, theatre, etc. (making up for lost time kind of thing) and still doesn't seem to have had it despite all their family having had it.
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I wonder if ther is any commonality in having had some other virus at an earlier stage that confers some protection against, or minimising of, Covid?

Have you ever had shingles for example?
 
Werewolf said:
There is a problem with assuming that just becacause "everyone is going to get it" that we should just stop trying to take precautions, and that is the way that it's starting to look like the more you get it, the more likely you are to have serious long term issues.
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I havn't had it despite working during lockdown and being out 7 days a week, but then I have followed the govt/health advisors basic guidelines for avoiding it, so I guess the experts in the field knew what they were talking about, who knew eh?

RossGReds said:
As long as possible? It's your choice. So you'll be wearing one forever then.
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Or until the vaccines actually offer lasting and good preventative protection like, oh, the flu vaccine which I'll be taking at some point this year.
 
Werewolf said:
It's amazing this sort of debate is going on after 2 years of covid and a mere 100+ years of their study and use in all sorts of medical and industrial settings.
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I know people who won't accept that Covid exists and all the patients in hospitals are actors.
It's very easy to believe when you watch something on You Tube and you've got an IQ of 5.
 
I had it for the 2nd time last month. A lot milder than the first time back in January. Took the compulsory time off work, but carried on with life as normal, did not stay at home at all. Probably infected a few people (who knows?) but it's so mild now, don't think I killed anyone :cry:
 
How about we introduce a new rule. Those still wetting the bed over covid stay at home. Leave the rest of us to get on with life and stop bothering us.
 
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