Soldato
Not here, a single finger ***** was enough after I'd heated my hand and clenched my fist until my veins were ready to pop out of my skin.
Lol they actually censored that word. Mods are crazy.
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion
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Not here, a single finger ***** was enough after I'd heated my hand and clenched my fist until my veins were ready to pop out of my skin.
Lol they actually censored that word. Mods are crazy.
Soldato
Must just be me then, if the missus had done it as well and I'd have had spare lances then I might have been ok, but given it was just me and I use my fingers at work all the time, its been a PITA today as 3 fingers on my left hand are a bit sore now lol
Soldato
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Interesting.
My latest blood sample (done once a month) has been classed as 'high antibody count'
This is the first time they have done this 'higher or standard' break down.
Anyone else in this care to share their results?
FYI: I've had 3 shots
I don't think I've had covid.
Never had a positive test
We are now dividing positive antibody results by whether there is the standard or a higher concentration of antibodies. As above, the standard antibody threshold was worked out before the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines were developed. Our bodies respond to infection and to vaccination in slightly different ways. Having had a COVID-19 infection before usually gives a stronger immune response than vaccination. To get a similar level of protection from vaccination alone, a higher level of antibodies is needed. Based on all the blood tests you and others in the survey have done, we have now worked out just how much higher. We compared how the risk of new COVID-19 infections changes across different antibody levels for the Delta variant, which was the most common variant at the time this research was done. The higher antibody level provides a 67% lower risk of getting a new COVID-19 infection with the Delta variant after two vaccinations, compared with someone who was unvaccinated and had not had COVID-19 before https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01721-6. Even higher thresholds may be needed to give equivalent protection against the Omicron variant but we do not yet know what these might be.
My latest blood sample (done once a month) has been classed as 'high antibody count'
This is the first time they have done this 'higher or standard' break down.
Anyone else in this care to share their results?
FYI: I've had 3 shots
I don't think I've had covid.
Never had a positive test
We are now dividing positive antibody results by whether there is the standard or a higher concentration of antibodies. As above, the standard antibody threshold was worked out before the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines were developed. Our bodies respond to infection and to vaccination in slightly different ways. Having had a COVID-19 infection before usually gives a stronger immune response than vaccination. To get a similar level of protection from vaccination alone, a higher level of antibodies is needed. Based on all the blood tests you and others in the survey have done, we have now worked out just how much higher. We compared how the risk of new COVID-19 infections changes across different antibody levels for the Delta variant, which was the most common variant at the time this research was done. The higher antibody level provides a 67% lower risk of getting a new COVID-19 infection with the Delta variant after two vaccinations, compared with someone who was unvaccinated and had not had COVID-19 before https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01721-6. Even higher thresholds may be needed to give equivalent protection against the Omicron variant but we do not yet know what these might be.
Caporegime
Wife managed of one lancet, I needed 2.
Soldato
Chef has Covid at my GF's workplace and is still working, now everyone is getting it, the hotel mainly caters to old people as well, and my GF is classed as clinically vulnerable, can she be forced to work under the current rules?
Managed to get her in for a forth jab, hopefully that should help.
Managed to get her in for a forth jab, hopefully that should help.
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Soldato
No she can’t be forced to work, it’s under section 44 H&S at work act, she should have walked out as soon as the chef refused to go home
https://section44.co.uk/
Soldato
A few friends went to a party at the weekend, someone turned up with a cough, and predictably, it's spread like wildfire.
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I wouldn't worry too much, the Covid we have now is much different to the Covid we all rightly feared at the beginning, vaccines are doing their job and the strain is vastly less deadly than it was that it's basically just an alternative to flu now, yes it can still kill but chances are so low you'd have to be really unlucky to be one of those statistics that it's probably better to get it now than any time during the pandemic
Soldato
The chef didn't refuse to go home, he was forced to come in!
Commissario
well except that we still don't know the long term effects and there is an increasing amount of research coming out that suggests that a lot of people who catch covid, even is asymptomatic are showing organ damage (albeit often minor) and other issues a year or more later when checked.
But it is totally unavoidable, so other than living in personal lock-down for the rest of your 'life' then what else can you do?
Soldato
There is a middle ground, you can be aware of Covid without living in full personal lockdown for the rest of your life!, people just need to use their common sense, If I have a bad cold/flu I don't go into work because I'd rather not inflict my illness upon others.
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This approach in summary: rely on others. That'll never work unfortunately.
Soldato
That and people are still peddling the 'Omicron is milder strain' which is blatantly false. It's still as deadly as the original strain, if not Alpha. This is solely vaccine induced immunity (or prior exposure) doing its job that is making it look mild, relative to Delta.
Vaccines are helping but also the shift with Omicron variants from reproducing faster in the back of the throat/nose makes it a lot easier to treat and/or less serious for those less vulnerable as you don't get the same extent of inflammation in the lungs. Where deaths are mounting up again is mostly due to hospitals being overstretched with Germany for instance over 200K new cases a day and struggling because so many health care staff are out of action with it so deaths are starting to mount again. (If anyone thinks this is over places like Germany and South Korea maybe suggest otherwise).
Caporegime
Does anyone fully understand the covid rules for entry to Germany?
Do I need to be double vaxxed or will a certificate or recovery do - for tourism?
Do I need to be double vaxxed or will a certificate or recovery do - for tourism?
Commissario
You may not be able to avoid it totally, but relying on other people is stupid given how idiotic some people are.
Personally I'm still taking as many precautions as I can, masking, avoiding crowded places where I can, meeting with people outside if possible.
If I get it I don't expect to die, but I know exactly how badly an infection from a virus can mess up your health without the initial infection seeming to be too bad.
Yeah I understand. I think I was taking similar precautions to yourself, but caught it anyway. Since then I've stopped masking/avoiding crowding places. Finger crossed getting it twice isn't on the agenda. I am double vaxxed but need my booster.
Sadly seems to be the minority of people who seem able to employ rational, proportional measures - it is bizarre. Most people seem polarised between complete disregard for any measures - until they get a personal experience with it when they often flip to the other extreme or way over the top.
Though the general situation isn't helping I don't think it is coincidence we barely made it a week at work after dropping all policies before clusters of it started breaking out at work.
My boss has managed to have it twice in the space of a couple of months give or take... about as bad as the average cold but still - came back with throat still pretty hoarse from the last one.