COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

It is picking up pretty bad around here - local district hospital where people I know/relatives work the admissions are now at twice that of any other time in the pandemic (though around half those are going in for other reasons + have COVID), as many people in hospital now in total with it as the peak in 2020 and ICU intake starting up again after dropping to zero for weeks.

We've got a whole load of staff off with it now at work - the managers had a meeting in the same room earlier in the week and now most of them by tonight are down with it. Several staff off with it where it is the second time since Christmas.

Somewhat interesting as well (more broadly than work) quite a few people admitting they've only had 2 jabs and fed up with getting vaccinated and won't be having another despite back around Christmas being all rah rah booster and encouraging people to have their booster.
 
How much of a boost to the immune system is frequent low level exposure to the virus?

It's taken that a full blown infection can act as a 'booster' to your vaccines, does the same happen if you become exposed but fight it off before it takes hold?

With the current infection levels and the amount of gadding about we're doing in cities and large events I must be getting exposed to it. I'm triple jabbed and 1 infection so far, my partner is triple jabbed and not been infected yet as far as we know.
 
The catastrophic failure of Sweden's amateurish pandemic response has been shredded in a new report. Health authorities deliberately withheld information, deceived the public, denied intensive care to those with comorbidities, and quietly killed old people, who were considered expendable.

“Many elderly people were administered morphine instead of oxygen despite available supplies, effectively ending their lives.”

“During spring 2020, many individuals were not admitted to the hospitals, and did not even receive a health examination since they were not considered at risk – resulting in individuals dying at home despite trying to seek help”

“there were triage instructions available in Stockholm region, showing that individuals with comorbidities, body mass index above 40 kg/m2, older age (80+) were not to be admitted to intensive care units, since they were unlikely to recover”

“Appropriate (potentially life-saving) treatment was withheld without medical examination, and without informing the patient or his/her family or asking permission”

“the common narrative being that those in care homes are expected to die soon anyway”


“Email conversations and statements from the State Epidemiologist and others show that they at least speculated on the use of children to acquire herd-immunity, while at the same time publicly claiming children played a negligible role in transmission and did not become ill”

“scientific methodology was not followed by the major figures in the acting authorities or the responsible politicians”

“the authority lacked expertise and could disregard scientific facts”[/b]

“The Swedish people were kept in ignorance of basic facts such as the airborne SARS-CoV-2 transmission”

“Many schools did not inform parents or even teachers about confirmed COVID-19 transmission on the premises, nor reported it to official agencies, and urged parents not to tell if their children were infected”

...The Swedish response to this pandemic was unique and characterised by a morally, ethically, and scientifically questionable laissez-faire approach, a consequence of structural problems in the society. There was more emphasis on the protection of the “Swedish image” than on saving and protecting lives or on an evidence-based approach.

A strategy was never discussed among all relevant parties, and never implemented nor communicated to the public. In addition, there was an unwillingness and incapacity to admit any failures at all governmental levels; or to take any responsibility for the clearly detrimental outcomes for Swedish society.

There were even attempts to revise history by changing, or deleting official documents, communication, and websites, and gaslighting the public.

The Swedish authorities involved were not self-critical and did not engage in any official and open dialogue and misled the public by withholding correct information and even spreading misleading information.

A small group of so-called experts with a narrow disciplinary focus received a disproportionate and unquestioned amount of power in the discussion, nationally and internationally.

There was no intellectual/scientific discussion between stakeholders (including independent experts from different disciplines), and the international advice of WHO, ECDC and the scientific community was ignored and/or discredited.

(Source).

You can read the full report here.
 
The catastrophic failure of Sweden's amateurish pandemic response has been shredded in a new report. Health authorities deliberately withheld information, deceived the public, denied intensive care to those with comorbidities, and quietly killed old people, who were considered expendable.



(Source).

You can read the full report here.
Hope that’s now the end of the conversation of some of the idiots on here, that point towards Sweden of how their way was the better way
 
How much of a boost to the immune system is frequent low level exposure to the virus?

It's taken that a full blown infection can act as a 'booster' to your vaccines, does the same happen if you become exposed but fight it off before it takes hold?

With the current infection levels and the amount of gadding about we're doing in cities and large events I must be getting exposed to it. I'm triple jabbed and 1 infection so far, my partner is triple jabbed and not been infected yet as far as we know.

No. If your body fights it off without it being able to really infect you, then you will generate a weak response. The body won't waste energy where it doesn't need to.
 
So people that have worked alongside multiple plague bearers over the last few years, with no vaccines and don't get Covid? Just lucky, immune? What?

Not sure - but possibly some just have a higher resistance to it.

One of my aunts was working around people with it all through - caught if off my grandad a few days ago for the first time at least symptomatically.

None of my immediate family including myself have had it yet - one of my sisters still hasn't had it (regular tests due to occupation) despite her partner and kids having had it at various points and being around multiple people with it. We've been careful but not gone to any extreme lengths out of our way to avoid it.

Dunno how long that will hold out for though. I'll be surprised if I make it beyond another week or so as people are going down like flies with it at work and I've been around them.

One thing is for sure - seems pretty evident at this point that with Omicron the vaccines only give a few weeks protection against infection and transmission before it wanes to insignificant levels though the protection against severe disease seems to hold up fairly well longer term. More so elsewhere than these forums but I got savaged for suggesting that back along when it wasn't the official government sanctioned message... :rolleyes:
 
So people that have worked alongside multiple plague bearers over the last few years, with no vaccines and don't get Covid? Just lucky, immune? What?

Aren't a large proportion of the population asymptomatic? I know a few people that work in hospitality, very close contact with thousands of customers in close spaces and they have 'appeared' not to have got infected, but I presume they have but was unaware.
 
Aren't a large proportion of the population asymptomatic? I know a few people that work in hospitality, very close contact with thousands of customers in close spaces and they have 'appeared' not to have got infected, but I presume they have but was unaware.

Presumption is bad :)

In the space of a few weeks I've been to a.major city on a night out for a stag and to a party with 20,000+ people, not until I went away on a local holiday villa did I catch it :p
 
Presumption is bad :)

In the space of a few weeks I've been to a.major city on a night out for a stag and to a party with 20,000+ people, not until I went away on a local holiday villa did I catch it :p

I don't agree, one particular person I know has consistency worked with thousands of people for the entire pandemic, close quarters, handling customers left overs, even people in her home got infected, she has shown no symptoms, I don't believe your one trip guarantees an infection, you didn't interact with 20,000+ people at your party, probably a group within it, same if you go to a football match.
 
Aren't a large proportion of the population asymptomatic? I know a few people that work in hospitality, very close contact with thousands of customers in close spaces and they have 'appeared' not to have got infected, but I presume they have but was unaware.
Asymptomatic is the majority of the cases. Also if you’ve already had that variant it is then very rare to be infected again with it.
 
Three people in my house have been really ill with symptoms very much like Covid, sore throat, constant cough, tired, dizzy, headache, but none are testing positive for covid. Is anyone aware of something else nasty that’s going around the SE?
 
Three people in my house have been really ill with symptoms very much like Covid, sore throat, constant cough, tired, dizzy, headache, but none are testing positive for covid. Is anyone aware of something else nasty that’s going around the SE?

I'm the same, negative here.. Wife has had the same symptoms and only tested positive after 4 days of it. She's still got the throat and cough issue but has tested negative for 2 days.
 
Asymptomatic is the majority of the cases. Also if you’ve already had that variant it is then very rare to be infected again with it.

This depends entirely on the immune response generated. Generally, it is assumed asymptomatic cases produce weaker immunity in general, so are more likely to be re-infected.

And you wouldn't be counted as a re-infection because you never knew you had it before.
 
I don't agree, one particular person I know has consistency worked with thousands of people for the entire pandemic, close quarters, handling customers left overs, even people in her home got infected, she has shown no symptoms, I don't believe your one trip guarantees an infection, you didn't interact with 20,000+ people at your party, probably a group within it, same if you go to a football match.

No no, there was a fair amount of moving about :p
 
Three people in my house have been really ill with symptoms very much like Covid, sore throat, constant cough, tired, dizzy, headache, but none are testing positive for covid. Is anyone aware of something else nasty that’s going around the SE?

One of my bosses seemed to have similar symptoms at the end of last week but after 5 or 6 days of listening to her cough and wheeze she tested positive for covid where as she was negative prior. Obviously I'm not in the south east but it may appear similar to what others in your house has?
 
Three people in my house have been really ill with symptoms very much like Covid, sore throat, constant cough, tired, dizzy, headache, but none are testing positive for covid. Is anyone aware of something else nasty that’s going around the SE?

My GF was ill like this for about 4/5 days before eventually testing positive. Whereas I tested positive on the same day after almost definitely catching it from her with absolutely no symptoms.
 
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