COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

1 back, 3 still off, 2 down today, 1 off with all the symptoms but testing negative at work.
 
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So sorted lateral tests for most family members across 3 different households and everyone has it, 2 years nothing and everyone gets it a week before most government measures go away :p
 
Yet we know they let in maybe 1/4 million people from ukraine via the Polish border without even a test let alone vaccination - which is selective application of the rules.

You chose to not get jabbed, those Ukrainians were forced from their homes

Given your attitude and apparent lack of empathy for refugees all I will say is ahahahahaha tough **** for you
 
Which is odd, given the reason they want to go there.

To be honest most people wanting to go places "to help" generally just end up getting in the way and would be better placed helping from where they are, seems really odd to complain that people displaced from their homes because their country was invaded are given a pass yet wanting to go "to help" them some sort of cognitive dissonance
 
You know nothing about this.

You want to go to Germany to help your Ukrainian friends but you can't because you chose not to get the vaccine and are upset because millions of refugees who literally were forced out of their country are allowed into Germany without a vaccine so it somehow makes you entitled to get into Germany when you can probably help your friends just as much from UK

What am I missing ?
 
Just give what you would have spent on travel to a charity, or if you know them direct to Ukrainians.

The inability to travel where you want is on you.

Edit: not passing judgement just stating what you would have known anyway for at least 18 months.

I have already given 9k to help.

The difference is being able to go and help in person rather than from another country.
 
I have already given 9k to help.

The difference is being able to go and help in person rather than from another country.

I do apologise as I'm sure your intentions are good willed but you're just going to have to suck it up, complaining about it isn't going to change the fact you can't go and you must appreciate how it seems strange trying to compare your situation to the refugees, you made a choice, they, not so much
 
But if I can prove I have immunity what's annoying Is the inconsistent approach where some countries will accept lft proof rather than pcr.

Ha, you're trying to make sense of all this. Problem is that you speak as if government responses to covid have been proportioned, measured and sensible given its risk profile, when they haven't.

Countries are free to set their own rules and you can't prove you have immunity to an acceptable standard..

When this chap has caught covid in the not too distant past and this "acceptable standard" isn't based on science, you have to wonder what they're up to. His immune response is likely now more robust than it would be for someone who has only been vaccinated (yet they would be allowed entry to some of these places) and him getting vaccinated would be taking a small risk of adverse effect but for practically no additional benefit whatsoever.

Flu mutates far more than covid does so people will catch that far more often in their lifetimes. Even now with the vaccine for most people it’s no worse than a cold. Time to move on. Everyone else is.

Don't thank the vaccine, thank the omicron variant, which has very mild symptoms (as observed first in SA with a very low portion of vaccinated individuals) for broadly providing an exit route to all of this. This is particularly important to consider given that existing vaccines based on early-strain targeting have really quite crap efficacy against omicron. Go check some of the more well instrumented countries case and death rates.
 
When this chap has caught covid in the not too distant past and this "acceptable standard" isn't based on science, you have to wonder what they're up to. His immune response is likely now more robust than it would be for someone who has only been vaccinated (yet they would be allowed entry to some of these places) and him getting vaccinated would be taking a small risk of adverse effect but for practically no additional benefit whatsoever.

Rightly or not it's been obvious for a long time you'd have the best chance of overseas travel by getting vaccinated and @The Running Man could have been vaccinated long before he caught COVID.
 
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