COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

[maschio]

So what? If they don't want to risk catching it or any other unpleasant respiratory illness why does it bother you and people like you so much? Is it some kind of macho thing where everyone should just accept that they'll probably be coughing their guts up several times a year because everyones in it together? They should just "man up" and catch it like everyone else? I'm genuinely curious.

#1 - Not wearing them properly is just virtue signalling
#2 - Masks are grubby
#3 - Regular handling of grubby masks and handling customers food items and coins and notes leads to further spreading of flu and other viruses
#4 - covid is a busted flush

 

[grudas]

The fact that people are still yapping about mask wearing etc is insane. Skulls so thick nothing penetrates them. It literally makes 0 difference to you if someone does or does not wear a mask. What’s next, you’re going to tell me what colour socks to put on because white gets mucky quicker. Get a grip.

 

[unKle]

Mrs tested positive week before xmas, started with dry hacking cough leading to sneezing and stuffy nose/cold symptoms etc. I tested positive on xmas eve. The night before I had the cough also, which soon turned to headaches, sneezing.

Come Wednesday night I went back to work, as my work place guidelines are the same as government ones, only stay home if you feel poorly. I felt fine, just felt bunged up.

They sent me home and don't want me back until I have a negative result. They don't want my shift all catching it, which I totally understand. But the problem is they won't pay me either, which is why I went to work as I knew they wouldn't pay me sick pay for calling in with COVID.

I'm still testing positive so that's a week now. It's my second time of catching it, (first time was Easter 2022) had a heacache for one night and bit of a cough, 24 hours later I felt perfectly fine. It took nearly two weeks before I got a negative test back then, difference was I was on full pay.

Worst part about catching it this time, can't smell or taste nothing, never had that before, very odd!

 

[cheesefest]

There's 2 ladies working on the tills at my local m and s that I see quite often(I'm in at least twice a week) and everytime they are wearing one of the blue paper masks

Not wearing properly as the top of the mask just covers the top lip. The masks always looks grubby as they're presumably on all day with regular touching whilst handling 1000's of different fiod items each shift

Just can't see the point and shake my head. I understand that nowadays you can't criticise or question as wearing it is they're choice and helping they're mental health but ffs

I blame the govt and media for scaring people into this and it will take a long time before we completely see the back of it

My partners old man now routinely declines going for a coffee stating he doesn't fancy it whilst everyone else goes and I'm positive it's covid legacy of being scared to go out

It's those who wear masks outside! What is that all about? Fresh air is certainly better than wearing a mask all the time. Even see medical staff taking off their masks when walking between buildings which means going outside. At Leicester Royal Infirmary, we have buildings which are connected together internally. In that situation, the staff can't do this.

People need to stop being scare mongered and accept that covid is going to be around for a few years to come and treat them as a cold or flu.

 

[cheesefest]

Problem is many employers like mine has a sickness policy of hitting 3 sicknesses and get disciplinary. Things like post surgery recovery and major things like broken legs, cancer get discounted towards this. Because of my asthma and if I am sick off work with asthma related conditions, there's some leeway for me. For others, they don't want the stress etc associated with disciplinaries.

Hence why you see shop workers etc coming into work full of a stinking cold. If I get a cold where I am constantly blowing my nose - I call in sick as not practical.

In one job I had, which was back office support for a call centre, hardly spoke to customers. I had a massive cold with a severe blocked nose. Only way to relieve it was to stick a Vicks inhaler stick in each nostril. My manager couldn't stop laughing and said I must go home and she wouldn't count my sickness to the sickness policy. I looked like Blackadder in this https://blackadderquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/wibble.jpg.webp without the pants on head.

 

[jcr]

The fact that people are still yapping about mask wearing etc is insane. Skulls so thick nothing penetrates them. It literally makes 0 difference to you if someone does or does not wear a mask. What’s next, you’re going to tell me what colour socks to put on because white gets mucky quicker. Get a grip.

and lets not forget the magical 6ft apart.

 

[Hedge]

and lets not forget the magical 6ft apart.

Yeah I understand it was all very new and people were trying to work out the best course of action but surely now we can all look back on some measures and feel they were pretty ridiculous.

The biggest disgrace about the whole thing was small businesses going under while supermarkets and online shops were deemed essential and made wild profits.

Why was I able to buy Chinese tat from Amazon or processed junk from Asda, yet I wasn't able to buy some local products from my local butcher?

Things like that bug me.

That and the many thousands of people who were too scared to get cancer appointments or suffered significant mental health issues from the isolation and anxiety.

 

[jcr]

The biggest disgrace about the whole thing was small businesses going under while supermarkets and online shops were deemed essential and made wild profits.

you think that was a bigger disgrace than MP's refusing to let people see sick & dying loved ones or attend funerals. whilst all the while they are having parties and affairs?

 

[Hedge]

you think that was a bigger disgrace than MP's refusing to let people see sick & dying loved ones or attend funerals. whilst all the while they are having parties and affairs?

Oh yeah I actually attended a 15 person funeral at the time too and agree.

 

[Werewolf]

Mrs tested positive week before xmas, started with dry hacking cough leading to sneezing and stuffy nose/cold symptoms etc. I tested positive on xmas eve. The night before I had the cough also, which soon turned to headaches, sneezing.

Come Wednesday night I went back to work, as my work place guidelines are the same as government ones, only stay home if you feel poorly. I felt fine, just felt bunged up.

They sent me home and don't want me back until I have a negative result. They don't want my shift all catching it, which I totally understand. But the problem is they won't pay me either, which is why I went to work as I knew they wouldn't pay me sick pay for calling in with COVID.

I'm still testing positive so that's a week now. It's my second time of catching it, (first time was Easter 2022) had a heacache for one night and bit of a cough, 24 hours later I felt perfectly fine. It took nearly two weeks before I got a negative test back then, difference was I was on full pay.

Worst part about catching it this time, can't smell or taste nothing, never had that before, very odd!

I'm not an employment lawyer, but I would have thought if your employer has specifically informed you to not go into work whilst ill they should at least be paying you under their sick pay policy, if not full rate.

After all you are not the one that has made the decision to go in, you've made yourself available for it despite being ill.

 

[Orangeade]

The fact that people are still yapping about mask wearing etc is insane. Skulls so thick nothing penetrates them. It literally makes 0 difference to you if someone does or does not wear a mask. What’s next, you’re going to tell me what colour socks to put on because white gets mucky quicker. Get a grip.

It did make a difference at some point because the fanatism of some people would have had us all locked up like dogs forever. Just go back on this thread and see the frankly insane perspectives people had.

and lets not forget the magical 6ft apart.

Haha true.

Yeah I understand it was all very new and people were trying to work out the best course of action but surely now we can all look back on some measures and feel they were pretty ridiculous.

The biggest disgrace about the whole thing was small businesses going under while supermarkets and online shops were deemed essential and made wild profits.

Why was I able to buy Chinese tat from Amazon or processed junk from Asda, yet I wasn't able to buy some local products from my local butcher?

Things like that bug me.

That and the many thousands of people who were too scared to get cancer appointments or suffered significant mental health issues from the isolation and anxiety.

Because it was social engineering for the most part and it worked extremely well. Anyone that dissented was labelled as extremist.

And for the tens of thousands of people who died and will die of cancer and related illnesses let's not forgot it wasn't just that they were scared to get appointments but lots of places just stopped offering the services. Entire hospital sections were completely empty. (But at least we got tiktok videos of them dancing...)

you think that was a bigger disgrace than MP's refusing to let people see sick & dying loved ones or attend funerals. whilst all the while they are having parties and affairs?

But see on this one I have zero sympathy with people. There is not a force on earth that would have stopped me seeing a loved one. People need to take responsibility for their own inaction as well. Hearing people bleat about Boris having parties whilst they left their old kin to rot or allowing the indignity of no one at funeral etc. You're not actually mad at Boris you're mad because you are a coward.

And these cowards would (and I still believe have) changed our future and perceptions around importance of liberty.


P.s for the record I took the absolute **** with covid, travelled more than I ever did, used it as time to really reconnect with my family, advance in my career. Oh and didn't get any of the lovely jabs either. and yet still alive just like 99.9% of my age group! (But the old people I hear people whine. Ah yes those ones that the government basically locked up in old persons homes to die).

 

[sigma]

Did he say that? Or did he say he doesn't worry about it?

Pretty sure there are other posts of his that question climate chamge but I'm not going to go hunting.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Funny as most of the time it seems to be the other way around....

Everyone just assumes that whatever illness they now have isn't Covid, so they don't even bother testing for it, they just selfishly continue on with their lives, infecting others.

Exactly this in my world and working in a hospital.
Even I said yesterday to the wife "I think I'm coming down with a cold".
I haven't heard any friends, family or work colleagues with a sniffle/cough say it's Covid, it's as though they/me want to stay away from that word.
More importantly nobody on my Facebook timeline claims they have Covid, just a bad cold.

 

[CapitalOne]

Rant

Social engineering.....tiktok...cowards....I took the ****

You might not get such short thrift if you weren't such a zealot. You might even have some decent points buried down in there (maybe, somewhere).

Was that a thinly disguised Johnson defence? That takes the biscuit...he's a charaltan Covid or not.

 

[Devilman]

Exactly this in my world and working in a hospital.
Even I said yesterday to the wife "I think I'm coming down with a cold".
I haven't heard any friends, family or work colleagues with a sniffle/cough say it's Covid, it's as though they/me want to stay away from that word.

Yep, my GF had it recently and at first we figured it was probably just a bad cold or maybe a "proper" case of the flu.

It was only after symptoms persisted for more than 10days or so I started to wonder if it might be Covid, as people are usually on the path to recovery from the flu by day 8 or so.

Turns out it was indeed Covid and it kicked her butt really hard for about 3 weeks in total

 

[sigma]

What's your personal take on current covid?

How do you live your life around it. Do you distance, wear masks, get frequent boosters? Are you in the "at risk" group?

Your climate comment is interesting because in the same way some people just accept they have no control over getting covid or not, they also know they have no control over environmental damage being done on an industrial scale by countries we rely on for cheap products and by rich people jetting about on private planes.

I think COVID is real, people die from it, people suffer long term issues from it. I think if you are ill from any infectious/contagious illness you should avoid spreading it. I don't belittle people who are anxious about an illness that spreads easily and which can cause significant issues including death. The same applies to 'normal flu'.

I do point out ignorant people as often the ignorance they exhibit is the tip of the iceberg. Would you rather live in a world of ignorant people or people who have empathy?

I'm not sure why being concerned about climate change suddenly means people think that individuals can singlehandedly change it themselves.

Do you think more people being ignorant is going to improve or ruin life on the planet? Actually it's the younger generations that have anxiety about this, when they look at the already changing weather and what it's potentially going to be like for them and future generations.

 

[sigma]

Social engineering.....tiktok...cowards....I took the ****

You might not get such short thrift if you weren't such a zealot. You might even have some decent points buried down in there (maybe, somewhere).

Was that a thinly disguised Johnson defence? That takes the biscuit...he's a charaltan Covid or not.

Isn't it funny how people come across as thinking they're far more switched on than the 'sheeple' yet they have major holes in their reasoning and plenty of other characteristics.

 

[Orangeade]

Social engineering.....tiktok...cowards....I took the ****

You might not get such short thrift if you weren't such a zealot. You might even have some decent points buried down in there (maybe, somewhere).

Was that a thinly disguised Johnson defence? That takes the biscuit...he's a charaltan Covid or not.

I watched the world voluntarily give up its freedoms like it was a worthless trinket. Yes it made me quite disillusioned and quite "zealous" on the topic.

Maybe pick some random pages in the past to have a look at some of the things people were proposing to refresh your mind.

And lol at saying I'm defending that toad. Couldn't give less of a **** at another slimy English politician who wanted a job to jerk his own ego and line his pockets. But it doesn't change facts that people watched their loved ones die from other side of Windows or all alone. It was so dehumanising as to be unreal. And now they lash out at someone else's actions rather than facing their own inactions....


P.s for the record in the first few months of covid I was very cautious, kept my distance, worked remotely etc. Then when it became clearer which by summer 2020 it was, I was able to adapt. Lots of people knew the same lots of people didn't act on it.

 

[sigma]

Mrs tested positive week before xmas, started with dry hacking cough leading to sneezing and stuffy nose/cold symptoms etc. I tested positive on xmas eve. The night before I had the cough also, which soon turned to headaches, sneezing.

Come Wednesday night I went back to work, as my work place guidelines are the same as government ones, only stay home if you feel poorly. I felt fine, just felt bunged up.

They sent me home and don't want me back until I have a negative result. They don't want my shift all catching it, which I totally understand. But the problem is they won't pay me either, which is why I went to work as I knew they wouldn't pay me sick pay for calling in with COVID.

I'm still testing positive so that's a week now. It's my second time of catching it, (first time was Easter 2022) had a heacache for one night and bit of a cough, 24 hours later I felt perfectly fine. It took nearly two weeks before I got a negative test back then, difference was I was on full pay.

Worst part about catching it this time, can't smell or taste nothing, never had that before, very odd!

Is that legal? Surely your contract says you're entitled to sick pay?

 

[Hedge]

I think COVID is real, people die from it, people suffer long term issues from it. I think if you are ill from any infectious/contagious illness you should avoid spreading it. I don't belittle people who are anxious about an illness that spreads easily and which can cause significant issues including death. The same applies to 'normal flu'.

I do point out ignorant people as often the ignorance they exhibit is the tip of the iceberg. Would you rather live in a world of ignorant people or people who have empathy?

I'm not sure why being concerned about climate change suddenly means people think that individuals can singlehandedly change it themselves.

Do you think more people being ignorant is going to improve or ruin life on the planet? Actually it's the younger generations that have anxiety about this, when they look at the already changing weather and what it's potentially going to be like for them and future generations.

Covid IS real. There aren't really many (on a whole) that deny its existence. What a lot of people refuse to believe is that it's killing thousands left right and centre.

I wouldn't belittle people but I'd say some people need to get some perspective. Unless you're vulnerable it's highly unlikely to kill you. You probably have as much chance being hit by a car the next time you cross a road. It doesn't mean you should stop crossing roads though.

What has kept this thread alive is people listing symptoms from unknown illness (they haven't bothered to test half the time. And if they have, they say its likely positive even though the test said otherwise)

Your comment about trump/musk says you aren't against belittling people when it suits you.

Go walk into a town and see how many people are living a pre covid life. Blissfully going about their day while people like yourself are looking for reasons to have a moan.

I know which side of the covid divide I want to be on. And it's not the small side with people still prattling on about masks.