COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

I used to think COVID was a load of rubbish.......until I got it. I had a headache so bad,it felt like my head was gonna explode. I literally couldn't move at all in bed. Any minute movement would make it pound relentlessly. I was so ill my parents were on the verge of calling an ambulance. Btw this is just before all the media coverage. So it was going around long before the biased bulls*it corporation started their propaganda. Thanks China!


Why did you think covid was BS before the media coverage - how did you even know about covid?!

Also how did you know you had covid if you think you got it before the media coverage which would be before testing was available?
 
Not that faulty was it:cry: Seems like your memory is jaded.


Full PPE? Like this bus driver? Fret not, he got 10 full days off. I might make you sick but at least i view things from all sides. People like you are so indoctrinated it makes me sad.


Or these..


I'm confused, is Roy driving the bus?

And more importantly, is he OK?
 
I'm surprised people are still arguing about Covid now. I don't understand where the passion is coming from considering no one I work with has mentioned it in weeks and every person I know is just behaving like they did before it all kicked off.

I'm not denying it's existence or anything, just find it strange people here are still fighting over it.

Seems a pretty miserable way to behave.
 
Why did you think covid was BS before the media coverage - how did you even know about covid?!

Also how did you know you had covid if you think you got it before the media coverage which would be before testing was available?
I worded it wrong. Do you see my Sig smartass? I meant to say that COVID was doing the rounds long before the media latched onto it. I have had the flu (proper flu,not no pussy cold) 3 times in my life,and I was badly ill every time. But what I described was something else. I literally felt like my brain was going to explode out of my skull,it was that bad. I mentioned my parents concern because we have a history of anurisems in our family,in recent years my dad lost his sister and brother in quick succession,both anurisems. So you can see the concern.

*You weren't to know that so it's ok.
 
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I worded it wrong. Do you see my Sig smartass? I meant to say that COVID was doing the rounds long before the media latched onto it. I have had the flu (proper flu,not no pussy cold) 3 times in my life,and I was badly ill every time. But what I described was something else. I literally felt like my brain was going to explode out of my skull,it was that bad. I mentioned my parents concern because we have a history of anurisems in our family,in recent years my dad lost his sister and brother in quick succession,both anurisems. So you can see the concern.

*You weren't to know that so it's ok.

Well, it was likely spreading in some limited capacity around November/Dec outwith China, as the earliest possible lineage trace to the virus points to a emergence date of around early October. Mass media coverage began around mid January or so, as I recall.
 
Impossible to know for sure but my sister's family seem to have had it end of 2019/early 2020 after a trip to the Middle East - some of the symptoms like fatigue the same as what became common with COVID.
 
I hope none of you get it. Imagine the Flu,but X2 or even 3. It's no wonder so many people died. I actually felt my time was up. I have been through chicken pox, multiple flus,and even severed fingers,but that illness was definitely the COVID bug. It's awful. I managed to beat it because I am relatively young, but the older folks have no chance.
 
I hope none of you get it. Imagine the Flu,but X2 or even 3. It's no wonder so many people died. I actually felt my time was up. I have been through chicken pox, multiple flus,and even severed fingers,but that illness was definitely the COVID bug. It's awful. I managed to beat it because I am relatively young, but the older folks have no chance.

Well, probably won't get the severity you had now given that vaccines are a thing.
 
The earlier variants so far seem to have been the worst, not just down to vaccines or people building up immunity. What is going around at the moment really seems quite mild symptoms wise albeit I think that belies a bit the toll it can take.
 
I actually think I have it right now. I feel really nauseous, I've had on and off headaches, diarrhoea several times,no energy (that's the main thing) aching legs,and feeling a bit delusional tbh. I'm getting worried. If I'm being honest I'm scared:( This has been going on for about 5 days now. I used to have panic attacks a long while ago. I think they might be coming back
 
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I actually think I have it right now. I feel really nauseous, I've had on and off headaches, diarrhoea several times,no energy (that's the main thing) aching legs,and feeling a bit delusional tbh. I'm getting worried. If I'm being honest I'm scared:( This has been going on for about 5 days now. I used to have panic attacks a long while ago. I think they might be coming back
Maybe do an LFT test just to be sure. If it turns out positive call for an ambulance to be safe.
 
The earlier variants so far seem to have been the worst, not just down to vaccines or people building up immunity. What is going around at the moment really seems quite mild symptoms wise albeit I think that belies a bit the toll it can take.

Still zero good evidence that any Omicron variant is inherently less severe than the original wild type virus (ignoring the one you mention that was far more severe to start with and quickly died out), so I'm going to go with people building up immunity to it.

covid has had zero evolutionary pressure to become milder because it spreads absolutely fine during the asymptomatic period as is. I really don't like the pushing of the whole 'it became milder thing' because it peddles a myth that viruses just do not adhere to with our current historical medical knowledge.

I'd want to start seeing reductions in ACE2 binding affinity before I'd be confident in saying 'yeah, this is evolving to become milder'.
 
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Still zero good evidence that any Omicron variant is inherently less severe than the original wild type virus (ignoring the one you mention that was far more severe to start with and quickly died out), so I'm going to go with people building up immunity to it.

covid has had zero evolutionary pressure to become milder because it spreads absolutely fine during the asymptomatic period as is. I really don't like the pushing of the whole 'it became milder thing' because it peddles a myth that viruses just do not adhere to with our current historical medical knowledge.

I'd want to start seeing reductions in ACE2 binding affinity before I'd be confident in saying 'yeah, this is evolving to become milder'.
The earlier variants attacked the lungs more as I understand, the omicron and later goes at the throat more. Certainly my experience having had a pre and post omicron variant. V

There is certainly evolutionary pressure for viruses to become less severe over time, as a virus that puts someone in hospital or lays them up at home in bed is going to lose out to one that just makes people feel rough and spread mucus around coughing but otherwise we'll enough to keep getting about and spreading it.

While you are contagious pre-symptoms, you are *way* more contagious when you've developed a cough that is ejecting the virus all over the place.
 
I actually think I have it right now. I feel really nauseous, I've had on and off headaches, diarrhoea several times,no energy (that's the main thing) aching legs,and feeling a bit delusional tbh. I'm getting worried. If I'm being honest I'm scared:( This has been going on for about 5 days now. I used to have panic attacks a long while ago. I think they might be coming back

Do an antigen home-test and if it's positive then regularly monitor your blood oxygenation levels with a pulse oximeter, if your levels drop too low then go to hospital. Pulse oximeters can be bought by next-day delivery on Amazon for under £15. (This is not medical advice, it's just what we were being told to do during the pandemic.)
 
Still zero good evidence that any Omicron variant is inherently less severe than the original wild type virus (ignoring the one you mention that was far more severe to start with and quickly died out), so I'm going to go with people building up immunity to it.

covid has had zero evolutionary pressure to become milder because it spreads absolutely fine during the asymptomatic period as is. I really don't like the pushing of the whole 'it became milder thing' because it peddles a myth that viruses just do not adhere to with our current historical medical knowledge.

I'd want to start seeing reductions in ACE2 binding affinity before I'd be confident in saying 'yeah, this is evolving to become milder'.

There still seems to be some hospitalisation with it but I've not seen many people get symptoms like they were in early days, even those who've never had a vaccination and probably haven't had it previously.

Some people were getting properly ill with variants around the early days of Delta. You could often tell it was COVID from the cough and the way it kind of hollowed them out for a better way to put it.
 
I'm surprised people are still arguing about Covid now. I don't understand where the passion is coming from considering no one I work with has mentioned it in weeks and every person I know is just behaving like they did before it all kicked off.

I'm not denying it's existence or anything, just find it strange people here are still fighting over it.

Seems a pretty miserable way to behave.

We don't talk about it at the hospital any more, we just get on with it and we still have around 70 Covid patients HOWEVER when people still claim it was all made up or massively exaggerated it gets to me and others.

Well, it was likely spreading in some limited capacity around November/Dec outwith China, as the earliest possible lineage trace to the virus points to a emergence date of around early October. Mass media coverage began around mid January or so, as I recall.

I'm not going to say it definitely wasn't but you have to remember when we heard about the first cases in Britain around February it exponentially took off, if one person had it in a busy pub in November we would have very quickly known about it.
My Nephew says that his Nan, my Mum, had it in Ward 233 in December but I had to explain that if she had Covid that everybody in that respiratory ward would have fell down like flies including him, his Mum and probably me because of our comorbidities.
 
The first time someone had it that I knew, via the Internet, was the host of a podcast. He was totally against the vaccine, and said he'd only get it if he had to so he could travel to Wales (he was Welsh but lived in the US most of his life).

So the virus had been in the news, lockdowns were approaching. He'd started doing a supplemental youtube morning broadcast while he was packing his house items as he was moving.

One day he came on and he had what he thought was a very bad cold or flu. But he was trying to power through it.

The next day there wasn't any broadcast. Then word came through he'd been rushed to the hospital. But after a few days unconscious he died.

This is what I don't get about the anti vaccine people. I can understand the apprehension of taking a vaccine. But they have become obsessed by it. Totally taking their eyes off covid itself. They are like bots, as soon as someone talks about covid and long covid they ask "did you have the vaccine?". They literally come across like mindless lemmings...and it's obvious they haven't done any research of their own to come up with the opinion they espouse.
 
This is what I don't get about the anti vaccine people. I can understand the apprehension of taking a vaccine. But they have become obsessed by it. Totally taking their eyes off covid itself. They are like bots, as soon as someone talks about covid and long covid they ask "did you have the vaccine?". They literally come across like mindless lemmings...and it's obvious they haven't done any research of their own to come up with the opinion they espouse.

100% but I do it myself now all the time to take the pee.
If somebody dies I say "I bet they had the jab".
You're are wrong about the research though, they have done it but they prefer the CT stuff from Dr John, Katie Hopkins or David Icke etc.
 
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