COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Rroff said:
Same deal with PCR, etc. though an existing well established technology with an adaption for COVID rather than something they had to design from the ground up for the disease.
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One of the things I remember from early in the pandemic was that pretty much every medical facility from the private sector, public sector, and university labs were trying to find things that could help, so it wasn't surprising at all they adapted the tests fairly quickly.
 
The one thing I do agree on is the Wuhan lab leak theory. The Wuhan market theory doesn’t add up to me. Unintentional lab leak and evidence of cover up from Chinese government seems more plausible.

Think it was shown that UK, USA and France had funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the past and were then becoming increasingly concerned and being refused access to inspect in run up to covid.

Also think if it was proven that it WAS a lab leak even if unintentional and then covered up by China, it would cause too many headaches and lead to WW3. We don’t need anymore wars and conflicts so it was the wet market!

Western countries part funded Wuhan Institute of Virology anyway, play with fire you get burnt.
 
Anyways looking forward, the final phase of the trials for BC 007 finishes in autumn.

This will be the 3rd phase. It passed with good results in phase 1 and 2.

So we're on target to eventually get some public treatments hopefully by the end of the year.
 
I think he might have been referring to a slew of images floating around online showing countries buying up "covid 19 test kits" in the years prior to the actual outbreak. I can't verify the authenticity of these images so have never said such a thing, but they do exist and have been floating around for some time on social media platforms.

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Edit: I actually just visited the WITS website and ran this query. The product ID 902780 actually does exist, as does the data pertaining to World exports, however the product name is now "Medical Diagnostic Test instruments and apparatus", which could mean anything.

As a result, the pasted images have either:

1. Been doctored to read "Covid 19 diagnostic test"
2. They were incorrectly described, or the name of that test was changed after the pandemic started which skews the reporting now.
3. There actually is a conspiracy, the pandemic was planned and the tests were distributed prior to it happening.

Pick your poison really.
 
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mk1_salami said:
I think he might have been referring to a slew of images floating around online showing countries buying up "covid 19 test kits" in the years prior to the actual outbreak. I can't verify the authenticity of these images so have never said such a thing, but they do exist and have been floating around for some time on social media platforms.

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Also remember, and this is fact, that Domestos bottles had Covid/Coronavirus written on them way before 2020 but anybody with a brain knows there was other strains out before Covid-19.
 
mk1_salami said:
I can't verify the authenticity of these images
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Actually a really simple explanation which comes back to what I posted before.

These test kits are built from an existing product with just some rebranding and tweaking of the chemical side of the testing bit - in getting it to "market" quickly they've simply renamed the shipping details of the existing supply of component parts which has then changed the description of previous consignments in the database.
 
mk1_salami said:
I think he might have been referring to a slew of images floating around online showing countries buying up "covid 19 test kits" in the years prior to the actual outbreak. I can't verify the authenticity of these images so have never said such a thing, but they do exist and have been floating around for some time on social media platforms.
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The images are real, but they do not show what they are purported to show. Essentially the code used for COVID-19 tests was used prior to 2020, but they relabelled it to refer to "COVID-19" because that was the majority of the stuff being traded under that code. They've since changed it again because of the obvious confusion this caused.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Also remember, and this is fact, that Domestos bottles had Covid/Coronavirus written on them way before 2020 but anybody with a brain knows there was other strains out before Covid-19.
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I'm not saying the images are correct. I'm trying to explain where he may have gotten that idea from.

Also the images don't use a generic "coronavirus" term, but specifically "COVID-19", which of course didn't exist in 2018.

As I said, I'm not saying the images are accurate.
 
Mr Jack said:
The images are real, but they do not show what they are purported to show. Essentially the code used for COVID-19 tests was used prior to 2020, but they relabelled it to refer to "COVID-19" because that was the majority of the stuff being traded under that code. They've since changed it again because of the obvious confusion this caused.
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So option 2, in my previous post, which somewhat makes sense.
 
Rroff said:
Actually a really simple explanation which comes back to what I posted before.

These test kits are built from an existing product with just some rebranding and tweaking of the chemical side of the testing bit - in getting it to "market" quickly they've simply renamed the shipping details of the existing supply of component parts which has then changed the description of previous consignments in the database.
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This is actually interesting. If the test kit was simply re-branded that would make sense. However, if the component parts were changed to detect a new virus, why on earth would they use the same product code? Surely that would make the original product unfit for purpose. Unless the new test works to detect covid, and whatever the previous test kit tested for.
 
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mk1_salami said:
This is actually interesting. If the test kit was simply re-branded that would make sense. However, if the component parts were changed to detect a new virus, why on earth would they use the same product code? Surely that would make the original product unfit for purpose. Unless the new test works to detect covid, and whatever the previous test kit tested for.
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It is just component parts/apparatus, possibly the original line was no longer a product in active use so they just renamed it wholesale for the purposes of the pandemic.

(This is the difference between "peacetime" and "wartime" pace and how things can get done in a time of need/emergency far faster than normal which seems to confuse some people who think the normal pace is due to some kind of hard limits).
 
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Rroff said:
possibly the original line was no longer a product in active use
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But it clearly was, as millions of the kits were ordered each year. Seems silly to use the same product code.

Anyway, just to re-iterate... I'm not saying it's some big coverup. The reason for the images was to answer where the idea came from in the first place.
 
You know it makes sense that the code actually isn't a "product code" but a customs commodity code, which would explain a lot. Both tests would fall under the same code quite easily.
 
SmokeKingGun said:
The one thing I do agree on is the Wuhan lab leak theory. The Wuhan market theory doesn’t add up to me. Unintentional lab leak and evidence of cover up from Chinese government seems more plausible.

Think it was shown that UK, USA and France had funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the past and were then becoming increasingly concerned and being refused access to inspect in run up to covid.

Also think if it was proven that it WAS a lab leak even if unintentional and then covered up by China, it would cause too many headaches and lead to WW3. We don’t need anymore wars and conflicts so it was the wet market!

Western countries part funded Wuhan Institute of Virology anyway, play with fire you get burnt.
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If there is a conspiracy in terms of lab leak, etc. it goes far further than Wuhan. I read some papers in the early days of the pandemic related to things like this type of coronavirus and monoclonal antibodies and related which got yanked from the internet soon after, possibly just to prevent a witch hunt, which were a bit of a smoking gun.

Even today though there are a lot of holes in any of the possible theories - for a natural origin we are missing 3-4 decades of intermediate developments which is improbable though not impossible have been missed entirely, there are a lot of hurdles to intentional design but that doesn't rule out either someone individually making a breakthrough or having insight which isn't widely known or even incompetence that happened to produce a viable outcome just by chance, etc.
 
Rroff said:
If there is a conspiracy in terms of lab leak, etc. it goes far further than Wuhan. I read some papers in the early days of the pandemic related to things like this type of coronavirus and monoclonal antibodies and related which got yanked from the internet soon after, possibly just to prevent a witch hunt, which were a bit of a smoking gun.

Even today though there are a lot of holes in any of the possible theories - for a natural origin we are missing 3-4 decades of intermediate developments which is improbable though not impossible have been missed entirely, there are a lot of hurdles to intentional design but that doesn't rule out either someone individually making a breakthrough or having insight which isn't widely known or even incompetence that happened to produce a viable outcome just by chance, etc.
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Can we all agree Bill Gates didn't invent it to make a vaccine with trackers in it :)
 
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