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And it's already been explained it had way more testing than any vaccine before it.
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion
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And it's already been explained it had way more testing than any vaccine before it.
I guess the testing isn’t the issue I have with it. The issue is the apparent effect of it on colleagues and friends, several have had blood clots including a TIA, Blood clot in lung and DVT in leg. Pain in leg after the shot etc. my dad who hid through the whole of lockdown as he had COPD had the first vaccine and blood clots in leg. 2nd caused ‘too many red blood cells’ finally succumbing to a heart attack. He was fine before the shot and just wasted the last 2.5yrs of life locked in his house
I just don’t trust anything about it. The virus seems to be a man made gain of function version of coronavirus and the vaccine type was patented in the 1990s. Lockdowns, 2m distancing etc all just made up on the spot.
The whole thing was a complete mess and I have zero faith or trust in something rushed out. The impacts of the lockdown on children and teenagers seems to have been missed here too. Who else would do another lockdown if one started tomorrow ?
If you just have open mind and not jump in with bias this is worth a read
FINAL REPORT: COVID Select Concludes 2-Year Investigation, Issues 500+ Page Final Report on Lessons Learned and the Path Forward - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
I get it we have two people now calling other idiots or brainless just because of some associated positive view of the vaccine because they were test candidates. There is nothing showing about you have a brain by following everyone else or doing what you are told
Also if you have any issues with heart. Read this. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24009873
You may note I am not laughing or sharing only my own opinion as fact. I was very pro vaccine Infact then had a look around.
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Polio is far more tested if you just count it on amount of people who had it which is the argument used earlier. Quite a Uk centric view too .
Weird there’s no other vaccine injury schemes setup by governments
It’s odd you say I make stuff up about NHS because it didn’t happen to you. And yes they abandoned it later as many NHS people refused to take it. Wonder why they refused
Covid vaccines: The unvaccinated NHS workers facing the sack - BBC News
NHS staff explain why they have chosen not to have a Covid vaccine as the mandatory deadline looms.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Just to pick you up.on that, lockdowns, masks, quarantine etc have been methods to deal with epidemics (especially respiratory ones) throughout history so they weren't "just made up on the spot"
See another guy who has zero respect and laughs at my posts like some sort of a child who doesn’t know what to say so laughs. @Ayahuasca what is so funny ?
COVID ‘6-feet’ social distancing ‘sort of just appeared,’ likely lacked scientific basis, Fauci admits
Dr. Anthony Fauci confessed to lawmakers Tuesday that guidelines to keep six feet of separation — ostensibly to limit the spread of COVID-19 — “sort of just appeared” withou…
nypost.com
Let’s not mention Matt Hancock and PPE
COVID ‘6-feet’ social distancing ‘sort of just appeared,’ likely lacked scientific basis, Fauci admits
Dr. Anthony Fauci confessed to lawmakers Tuesday that guidelines to keep six feet of separation — ostensibly to limit the spread of COVID-19 — “sort of just appeared” withou…
Harvard experts discuss the history of social distancing
The Gazette looks at the history of social distancing, which, along with masks and vaccines, is still an effective strategy to stem the spread of COVID-19.
news.harvard.edu
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Well that’s pretty obvious since the bubonic plague. Stay away from people. Not sure what your point is. I said 2m was made up. It was.Harvard experts discuss the history of social distancing
The Gazette looks at the history of social distancing, which, along with masks and vaccines, is still an effective strategy to stem the spread of COVID-19.
Not really surprising when one side is using anecdotal evidence and an "After Action Review of the COVID-19 Pandemic: The Lessons Learned and a Path Forward" that has nothing to do with the vaccine itself as evidence.
You say if people just had an open mind however it seem you succumb to a confirmation bias, you're looking for/at evidence to support your belief. As evidenced by you saying "I just don’t trust anything about it." and not being able to point to anything specific.
Ah don’t get confused I’m not even that passionate about it. Certainly not enough to start insulting others. No point posting anything as no one reads it. I’ve read plenty to shift my mind on this but I’m not a library for others. It’s all out there if you go beyond media narrative (what’s Gaza?)
Anyway it’s clear a bunch of guys who sit in their bedrooms all day posting immediately as someone posts seem to be rather sheltered
Anyway it’s clear a bunch of guys who sit in their bedrooms all day posting immediately as someone posts seem to be rather sheltered
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Says the guy who's been insulting people who read his posts and replied to them.
The COVID crisis population reaction just shows that next real pandemic we get, we as a species are ******.
There will be too many remembering this outbreak and how badly it was handled for whatever reason.
Are we officially blaming China weapons labs yet or is that still taboo?
There will be too many remembering this outbreak and how badly it was handled for whatever reason.
Are we officially blaming China weapons labs yet or is that still taboo?
Where ??? I haven’t called anyone an idiot or brain dead.
You're not really understanding the context of the quote though.
Like you say, it's pretty obvious that staying away from an infected person lowers your chance of contracting said infection. That the "2m" was "made up", sure there's maybe no particular scientific data to say what an optimal distance is - especially as this will change on environmental factors - so a number has to be chosen. 2m is better than 1m, not as good as 3m but it has to be easily understood by Joe Public and work within the real world - no point saying stay 10m from anyone for example.
It's like saying there's no specific data that 60mph is safer than 61mph on the roads, but a cutoff has to be made somewhere.
It was an example. Wow you can argue anything.
I said it was made up. It was. Not sure what else you are going on about. 2m was unlikely not enough so it was pointless. No idea what speed limits have to do with it
Wasn’t it 5 fridge widths or something from boris to make it easy
I said it was made up. It was. Not sure what else you are going on about. 2m was unlikely not enough so it was pointless. No idea what speed limits have to do with it
Wasn’t it 5 fridge widths or something from boris to make it easy
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Yes.
If you find any that offensive or insulting, then that’s on you.
Seems more like certain people looking to get offended.
Trials almost always have a "control" arm where half of the recipients get a placebo ( they just aren't aware at the time - or shouldn't be if done properly ). The COVID vaccinations were definitely tested ; the problem is that side effects/issues were discovered and not communicated to the public. For example, the WHO had evidence before the vaccines were launched, that there was a 1 in 300 risk of developing Multiple Sclerosis following administration of the AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna vaccine. They didn't acknowledge this until after the pandemic was officially over.
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