COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Friend who has her father in a care home has been given the opportunity to have the Covid vaccine as she is the one who visits her dad more. Plus her mum is receiving chemotherapy so is unable to visit care home. Friend does FaceTime to her mum so can see her husband
 
PlacidCasual said:
I thought vaccines only had a minimal impact on your likelihood of catching Covid and that mostly they prevented the worst outcomes. If that's the case paying for people to get the jab for an ineffective protection wouldn't be a good use of money. Or have I picked up the wrong message on the vaccines?
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Based on what I've seen (and read) depending a bit on variant previous infection and/or vaccines do seem to be holding up in preventing severe illness, lately when it has gone around here 90% of people are getting it very mildly with just the odd 1-2 having it badly who mostly seem to be people who've somehow escaped getting it in the past. I don't think that is entirely due to variants being milder or that necessarily variants are inherently milder. Though the most effect is seen in people who'd otherwise be vulnerable.

The vaccines don't seem to be robust enough against preventing infection (in latest study I can find out of ~9000 people equally split between placebo group there were 75 cases without the vaccine and 23 cases with over a 4 month period), or at directly stopping transmission - while they can result in a smaller window of infectiousness the peak infectivity is not substantially reduced.
 
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PlacidCasual said:
I thought vaccines only had a minimal impact on your likelihood of catching Covid and that mostly they prevented the worst outcomes. If that's the case paying for people to get the jab for an ineffective protection wouldn't be a good use of money. Or have I picked up the wrong message on the vaccines?
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They are effective at reducing the severity of disease and the risk of Long Covid. The trouble is Covid mutates so quickly because it's so prevalent that it's difficult to keep up and protection starts to wane significantly after about three months (if I remember correctly).
 
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ltron said:
They are effective at reducing the severity of disease and the risk of Long Covid. The trouble is Covid mutates so quickly because it's so prevalent that it's difficult to keep up and protection starts to wane significantly after about three months (if I remember correctly).
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With the variants commonly going around at the moment previous infection or vaccination seems effective even beyond a few months - which wasn't the case back along with for example my boss having Delta and/or variants back around then 3 times in a row each time being very poorly, now he just shrugs it off. Enough people are still getting it badly, including people who've likely never had it before, I don't think that is entirely down to the variants being milder.
 
Cromulent said:
Flu and COVID jabs done. Hopefully that lasts me the winter.
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Hope you fare better than me - I had my COVID jab yesterday and had an awful night's sleep (really sore arm, sweating, thumping headache) and still have felt rough through most of today. Finally starting to feel better after a day of taking it pretty easy + plenty of ibuprofen. :(
 
Selekt0r said:
Hope you fare better than me - I had my COVID jab yesterday and had an awful night's sleep (really sore arm, sweating, thumping headache) and still have felt rough through most of today. Finally starting to feel better after a day of taking it pretty easy + plenty of ibuprofen. :(
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I had a sore arm for about 15 minutes but have no side effects so far.
 
Ad_Augendae said:
Does this Jab cover XEC
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Currently the jabs being given are JN.1.

The XEC variant is a cross variant between one strain and KP3.3 (IIRC). KP3.3 is a descendant of KP.2, which are what the latest jabs are.

TL;DR: Yes, but the KP.2 jabs are slightly more effective and we should be getting those ASAP instead of JN.1
 
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ltron said:
They are effective at reducing the severity of disease and the risk of Long Covid. The trouble is Covid mutates so quickly because it's so prevalent that it's difficult to keep up and protection starts to wane significantly after about three months (if I remember correctly).
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Yeah this is the main thing. You don't want long covid, and keeping up to date with the jabs dramatically lessens the chances of getting it as your immune system will clear up infections quicker on average.
 
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Got my first cold since I got COVID back in mid '21. I had some workmen around replacing the boiler in the kitchen and one of them the sniffles. I can WFH so even though it was just a simple cold (not even flu) I stayed away from work for the first 3 days then there was another 2 for a weekend) and not infected anyone I know.

Day 1 - sore throat and slight temp
Day 2 - sore throat and sneezing
Day 3 - dropped onto my chest over night so lots of phlegmy coughing
Day 4 - More coughing but massively reduced by nighttime
Day 5 - Last bit of coughing/phlegm
Day 6 - 95% back to normal, just the odd cough
Day 7 (today) - 100% back to normal.

I think WFH is extremely beneficial for things like this as, rather than taking the time off as "sick" which may put a lot of people off, if you have the ability to WFH (job dependent obviously) then staying away from work just makes sense.
 
Mint8 said:
Thoughts and prayers with all of you suffering colds and feeling the need to post daily updates.
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At least around me colds seem to have all but disappeared aside from the odd rhinovirus going around when the schools go back - which mostly affects kids. I've not had a proper one in over 5 years! and dodged the one bout of flu which went around.
 
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