COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

[Unseul]

Have you an opinion on the questions I asked? What do you think of young people been coerced into a vaccination they didnt need and government pushing vaccinations for children.

Do you have evidence they didn't need it?

COVID is worse than the vaccine in pretty much all metrics. Plenty of young healthy people died or suffered permanent life changing conditions due to COVID. And yes, vaccinations did help protect others through reducing transmission, and other means.

It's like you've not actually read and understood any of the actual evidence that's been posted here. Not necessarily surprising, most people wouldn't be able to, but to simply pretend it doesn't exist is not a valid argument.

 

[Lean]

it doesn't change the science.

"the science" changed weekly during covid because they were guessing at every turn or social media post.

We'll leave it there tbh. Answering questions with questions is painful.

Good night

 

[Unseul]

"the science" changed weekly during covid because they were guessing at every turn or social media post.

We'll leave it there tbh. Answering questions with questions is painful.

Good night

You can leave it where you like. We've had years of the science now, with plenty of evidence and research.

The vaccine, like any vaccine, can cause adverse reactions. The disease is worse.

Transmission was reduced, both in terms of viral load at least earlier on, and in terms of infectious period. In addition, shorter infected times would lead to less time for mutations to occur.

The science was changing early on because it was new, with new information and new mutations coming in. That's what science does, it's the strength of science, not weakness.

 

[Tephnos]

The science adapted to the ever-changing and evolving virus, but the basic principles always remained the same with regard to the vaccine you're complaining about. When it first came out, it halted transmission almost entirely because the vaccine matched the circulating strain near perfectly. The virus evolved, evaded the vaccine, and continued to spread rapidly.

However, as Unseul has said, transmission was still reduced due to people having immune systems that could fight off the virus within days instead of laying them off for weeks. This greatly reduces the impact of the virus on a population leveol.

 

[platinum87]

the science

The science

Yes "the science"

Your posts are well written sure, but you quote "the science"

Have you an opinion on the questions I asked? What do you think of young people been coerced into a vaccination they didnt need and government pushing vaccinations for children.

Same for people who click on links with a guy telling them they can make money trading after they sign up and complete their paid course.

 

[Unseul]

Yes "the science"

Your posts are well written sure, but you quote "the science"


Same for people who click on links with a guy telling them they can make money trading after they sign up and complete their paid course.

Sorry, I'm unsure with the issue of quoting scientific research? Is it not better than quoting people who've simply pulled stuff from some orifice or another? Or worse, try and pretend that some official body made a claim, then refuse to back it up when asked to.

Science can get it wrong, but unless you think there's some sort of international conspiracy, where scientists from many backgrounds are all working together, and faking the data of millions of subjects, then the science here is fairly cut and dry for the most part.

 

[Tephnos]

Sorry, I'm unsure with the issue of quoting scientific research? Is it not better than quoting people who've simply pulled stuff from some orifice or another? Or worse, try and pretend that some official body made a claim, then refuse to back it up when asked to.

Science can get it wrong, but unless you think there's some sort of international conspiracy, where scientists from many backgrounds are all working together, and faking the data of millions of subjects, then the science here is fairly cut and dry for the most part.

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it”.

 

[Murphy]

I'm struggling to get my head around how you guys who think you know about vaccines blow off anyone who has got life experience of the many adverse reaction people a living with.

Because anecdotal evidence is among the weakest types of evidence. Peoples anecdotal evidence is not being blow off, it's being acknowledge and superseded by more robust evidence.

Have you an opinion on the questions I asked? What do you think of young people been coerced into a vaccination they didnt need and government pushing vaccinations for children.

Depends on whether you're referring to children and/or young people who are over or under the age of consent, if they're under then that's on their guardian, if they're over then that's on them.