COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion
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and the change is everything now gets reported.
People, especially parents, think there are more paedos about now than when I was a kid in the 60s but it's only because every case get reported.
When I was a kid it was "Stay away from Johnny Boy" etc.
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Well I’ve finally officially tested positive for Covid. Feel horrendous too. Mouth and throat burning, lungs feeling heavy (basically the same as the February before we went into lockdown). Haven’t been vaccinated for 6 months. Chunky line too, as thick as the control. That’s what I get for trying to return to ‘normal’ and do my workplace a favour 
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Are there any estimates done for how winter will be regards Covid ? People are already going to have a really tough time trying to not starve or freeze to death, without having to deal with covid
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Pure punterism of course, but I suspect it will be similar to last winter as in big impacts on staff absence, NHS problems and a catch phrase a la "eating or heating" but I can't think of a likely candidate yet! All assuming we won't have anything "worse" to worry about variant wise. There will be lots of specualtion about masks and other tools to try and manage it but the government will stick to it's CRG guns (assuming it's still Borris in charge, he's not got any levers left with his back benchers).
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I'm guessing along with the flu jabs that they offer, they will have covid jabs too, I think the new sub-variants of omicron are still being analysed (at least I've heard there is omicron .4 and .5 out now?). It would be daft not to offer those who want a top up the option to do so.
I get the feeling the government will try and bury its head and pretend it doesn't exist until/unless it gets bad enough it can't be ignored.
I'll be surprised if we don't get a surge going into winter - but unless there is a new variant or significant change to Omicron I think we've probably stretched out the worst of the impact over the last couple of years and probably won't see a huge uplift in severe cases or death but many businesses could have a tough few weeks at the worst of it with staff absences - much of which could be avoided if people had any common sense.
While against a backdrop of reduced levels generally it was notable at work just how much the implementation of sanitisation routines and mask use, especially with distancing at the peak of it, pretty much stamped out the spread of just about any infectious disease. Sadly much of that has been discarded now.
I'll be surprised if we don't get a surge going into winter - but unless there is a new variant or significant change to Omicron I think we've probably stretched out the worst of the impact over the last couple of years and probably won't see a huge uplift in severe cases or death but many businesses could have a tough few weeks at the worst of it with staff absences - much of which could be avoided if people had any common sense.
While against a backdrop of reduced levels generally it was notable at work just how much the implementation of sanitisation routines and mask use, especially with distancing at the peak of it, pretty much stamped out the spread of just about any infectious disease. Sadly much of that has been discarded now.
If the circulating variant is still Omicron related, then I imagine the new updated bivalent vaccines will probably make a significant dent in the possible coming wave.
I just hope the government opens it for everybody instead of just the old.
I just hope the government opens it for everybody instead of just the old.
Social distancing and mask wearing is 'done' now, you won't get significant numbers people going back to that unless it was mandated and I can't see the government doing that. The past six months Covid has rapidly gone from being something that was still at arms length to just an everyday thing, instead of being 20% of people I know having had it, it's more like 80%. So it's inherently a bit blase now, "yeah i got it again, how bad was it for you?" sort of thing. It all felt a bit surreal, I went the whole of lockdown, over two years without knowingly having it before getting it a few weeks back.
Looking at the stats, the total number of confirmed cases has doubled in the past six months (i.e. as many have got Covid in the past six months as did in the first 21 months of the pandemic).
I estimate about 70% of people at work have had it now - interestingly an increasing number of them seem to have it more than once - while those who've escaped so far still seem to be evading it when the next lot goes around. There is around 20-30% at work who've either not had it or not symptomatically - despite in many cases at some point close contact with those who have.
Amongst my wider acquaintances though it is probably more like 30-40% who've had it. Weirdly my family seem immune... so far... to it, vaccinated or not - it is going to be strange if/when we do get it. While we were careful most of the pandemic the last few weeks it has been pretty much impossible not to be exposed to it.
Yes 4 and 5 are now prevalent in the UK, so third wave of Omicron is taking place. Going by SA data it shouldn't be quite as bad as the previous two waves of it though.
Interestingly so far COVID in animal populations also seems to converge, independently, towards Omicron like variants which progressively become more transmissible and vaguely more towards milder over time - though at this point there aren't extensive studies on it. It is possible this will always be the endemic nature of COVID.
My partners daughter and and her family have just recently caught it, early thirties and triple jabbed and have had a real rough time of it for a week, been really quite ill.
Sill funny (strange) how it is infecting people so differently as her brother caught it last year sometime and hardly noticed and I'm sure my partner is one of the immune ones - has been exposed to it from infected people multiple times, including myself and we didn't separate, and has never caught it.
Sill funny (strange) how it is infecting people so differently as her brother caught it last year sometime and hardly noticed and I'm sure my partner is one of the immune ones - has been exposed to it from infected people multiple times, including myself and we didn't separate, and has never caught it.
In some ways it goes without saying for many diseases but I think some people are always going to have a rough time with it and the vaccine won't magically make it mild for them - just might prevent it turning severe/critical. While others would always have a mild case vaccine or not.
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It’s really strange. I’ve been around people with Covid previously but haven’t tested positive.
This time it seems to have ripped through us all, and symptomatic too in all ages that caught it. All but about one in our group caught it, seemingly all at the same time as we all showed symptoms within a few hours of each other.
We’re going to need vaccines again soon.
I feel crap, but I’ll be ok. Crazy to think what Covid must have been like without 3 vaccines!
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It reminds me of The Plague that ripped through the country and killed loads in 1665. There was a little family in the very south of England in a village who didn't catch it and seemingly had immunity.
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Jesus, what age are you?
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I'm ancient at 41Jesus, what age are you?
It was information I vaguely took on watching a documentary ages ago.
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I expect there will be another wave of omicron variants like SA have experienced the question is the availability of boosters in teh autunm currently its over 65's only but I wouldn't be surprised if that age limit gets lowered. Either way any talk of herd immunity has been abandoned predictions expect repeated waves probably indefinitely. Theres a new moderna vaccine that offers significantly better protection/more antibodies than current ones which they're talking about as an annual vaccine rather than regular boosters but its not cleared yet iirc.
There are people who were,are immune to bubonic plague as they have mutated T-cells it also gives them immunity to HIV as it happens, but thats another story. But yeah there are always some who have natural immunity its why plagues in general are rarely or almost never, 100% fatal and the survivors will rebuild the population with their natural defences thats evolution in action or it was before we started interfering in teh process.
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