Criticise the Saudis and you go home in pieces


Is this some parody, some sort of comedy. Sure.. every building or company has cleaning materials deliveries, but the timing of it and how it was delivered and and that's it's a crew... that's not suspicious at all.

But anyway, if this was a Russian thing, everyone be screaming about it, but since it's our best friends Saudi Arabia, I doubt anything will ever happen.
 
I don't doubt they're laughing all the way to the bank, the point wasn't about the actors but rather this seemingly being a prestigious event for the Saudis.
You have to remember, wrestling may look silly to a lot of people but it's still one of the most popular forms of entertainment going. The WWE rarely hold major events outside the USA (when they held "Summerslam" in Wembley arena in front of 80,000+ people it was a big deal) and so bringing one of the most popular forms of entertainment going to SA and convincing them to run a major event with premier matches is a major coup for the royal family and very prestigious.

To put it in perspective for non, fans, imagine if they convinced every national football team to meet up for a bonus world cup, or paid the IOC to hold an additional Olympic games in the desert, that's the scale were talking. The saudis are putting up over half a billion for this event and many of the superstars are making 7-8 figures. Having to cancel it would be devastating to the WWE financially and that's before they get sued for breach of contract. The only way it's not happening at this point is if Trump (friends with the owner of WWE) directly tells them not to go.
 
You have to remember, wrestling may look silly to a lot of people but it's still one of the most popular forms of entertainment going. The WWE rarely hold major events outside the USA (when they held "Summerslam" in Wembley arena in front of 80,000+ people it was a big deal) and so bringing one of the most popular forms of entertainment going to SA and convincing them to run a major event with premier matches is a major coup for the royal family and very prestigious.

To put it in perspective for non, fans, imagine if they convinced every national football team to meet up for a bonus world cup, or paid the IOC to hold an additional Olympic games in the desert, that's the scale were talking. The saudis are putting up over half a billion for this event and many of the superstars are making 7-8 figures. Having to cancel it would be devastating to the WWE financially and that's before they get sued for breach of contract. The only way it's not happening at this point is if Trump (friends with the owner of WWE) directly tells them not to go.

I don't doubt that it brings in revenue, that wasn't in question from my perspective, I'm just laughing at the idea of it being a prestigious event that is nationally important.
 
Word is the Saudi's are in the process of producing a report saying he was accidentally killed via interrogation. That must be why they took a bone saw... just to scare him a little as it was sat on the polished metal table.
 
Word is the Saudi's are in the process of producing a report saying he was accidentally killed via interrogation. That must be why they took a bone saw... just to scare him a little as it was sat on the polished metal table.

Well perhaps the bone saw arrived on the second flight with the cleanup team? I've not looked at the details - how much of a delay was there between the two flights?

(what evidence do we have of a "bone saw" as opposed to a saw or indeed evidence of a saw in general?)

AFAIK died during interrogation is a potential explanation, what isn't very likely is the idea that the Crown Prince was unaware of this - the supposed rogue operation narrative they're seemingly going to go with and that Trump has already seemed to try and push too. That just comes across as total BS.
 
What are we going to do................my bet is absolutely nothing.

The UK needs to sell it`s arms somewhere i guess, why cut the hand that feeds. Just a shame its backwater of a country (unless your a prince) massive unemployment, yet they control a significant amount of world economics from vastly over estimated oil reserves.

Cut them off and take the hit, lost the dependence on this backwater nation.
 
How about this as an alternative -

  • Journalist goes to Embassy after booking an appointment previously
  • He gets seized inside and held by a 7 man interrogation squad who had arrived earlier that day, specifically for him
  • During his interrogation he has a heart attack and dies
  • 1st squad poops their pants over an unexpected dead body in the consulate and decides to ask for help from Saudi
  • Saudi says "Oh ****!" then tells them to get rid of the body and scrambles a 2nd team to help remove any evidence
  • 1st squad then chops up the body in the embassy and removes the body/body-parts to a nearby diplomats home
  • 2nd squad arrive later that day with forensic/autopsy expert and sanitise the scene before leaving the country
  • 1st squad leave separately with the body parts
  • Only then do Saudis think about making a "cover story", hence it's rushed and poor narrative
So in that "story" here the death is accidental

Word is the Saudi's are in the process of producing a report saying he was accidentally killed via interrogation.

My OP was posted 5 days before this was announced.

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My OP was posted 5 days before this was announced.

PS If you want to know the winning National Lottery numbers for Tomorrow it'll cost you :D

That was your prediction for what actually happened though rather than a prediction that the Saudis would come out with something like that as an excuse.

To be fair something along those lines is a possibility (albeit with some added torture if the recordings are true). It is more the idea that the Crown Prince didn't know about it that is incredibly dubious.
 
I wouldn't mind being 6ft 9, roided up to the gills and being called a fat play actor by some Brit for millions of dollars a year.
as opposed to some nancy boy footballers prancing about a pitch for 90 mins and getting paid millions for it, falling over and doing Oscar-worthy performances when they barely crumple their shirt, and bringing so much value to their team that the majority of clubs seem to be millions in debt.
 
That was your prediction for what actually happened though rather than a prediction that the Saudis would come out with something like that as an excuse.

I posted the OP because I believe it actually happened like that rather than something now being "made up" by Saudi as an excuse, i.e. it really wasn't a planned kill but a screw-up during his illegal interrogation. It still doesn't absolve Saudi in anyway though.

did he have an accidental heart attack, or did he accidentally dismember himself?

Hmmm, someone needs to read what I actually wrote rather than make things up about they "think" I said :D
 
I posted the OP because I believe it actually happened like that rather than something now being "made up" by Saudi as an excuse, i.e. it really wasn't a planned kill but a screw-up during his illegal interrogation. It still doesn't absolve Saudi in anyway though.

I know and tbh.. I think it was a reasonable prediction and potentially still a plausible explanation. :)
 
I imagine that the Americans have a lot of experience with people dying while being politely questioned - thinkgs like accidentally falling out of helicopters, swallowing excess refreshment, etc. They would certainly understand how easily these things can happen.
 
... The UK needs to sell it`s arms somewhere i guess, why cut the hand that feeds. ...
Much the same sort of argument as used by drug dealers, muggers, payday loan providers, bankers and other crooks.

... Just a shame [Saudi Arabia is a] backwater of a country (unless you [are] a prince) ...
Care to define "backwater"?

... [Saudi Arabia has] massive unemployment ...
Does it? I suspect that most Saudis who want to work, can. Their jobs may be pretty "imaginary" but I didn't know that they have a "massive unemployment" problem.

... vastly over estimated oil reserves. ...
Source?

Frankly, your entire post seems pretty nonsensical.
 
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