Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra performance

Wrinkly · 10 Dec 2020 at 10:39

nvidiamd said:
https://twitter.com/coreteks/status/1336953604704522242

This is how you can increase the performance on the AMD cards. Just like on the consoles, it will render the frames at a lower res when the scene gets crowded but it will keep the frames consistent.

Last console I bought was the Sega Master System...

nvidiamd said:
I told you it is the same with Godfall. They only unlocked AMD cards because there is too much work to do to optimize the game for another architecture. The same is true for Cyberpunk. There is too much work to be done before they can release an optimized version for AMD.

Nvidia are so far ahead in RT that they don't need it to be optimised. These are hybrid games where Nvidia have 3 dedicated architectures running in parallel to produce the image. AMD have 1 and some on die cache to claw some performance out of it.

D.P. · 10 Dec 2020 at 10:42

nvidiamd said:
Do you guys have any brains? You can read the devs saying that they won't offer AMD RT support at launch but you keep saying that AMD disabled the RT.
Really you are worse than fanboys.
https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-wont-support-raytracing-on-amd-cards-at-launch/

"Hi Marcin, what about RT specs for new AMD cards?
Not for the release but we are working together with AMD to introduce this feature as soon as we can."

working with AMD means AMD didn't want RT enabled at the launch of the cards since AMD's performance is so poor.

This is nothing unexpected. The 6800XT has RT performance between a 2070 and 2080.

Cyberpunk is already very demanding so RT on the 6800 cards would be totally unplayable.

Made even worse by the lack of DLSS equivalent.

No doubt CP2077 will need a special RT path for AMD cards enabling only a few of the effects.

nvidiamd · 10 Dec 2020 at 10:43

Wrinkly said:
Nvidia are so far ahead in RT that they don't need it to be optimised. These are hybrid games where Nvidia have 3 dedicated architectures running in parallel to produce the image. AMD have 1 and some on die cache to claw some performance out of it.

I am sure they are...
So how many FPS can you get with RT at 4k native?

Wrinkly · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:05

nvidiamd said:
I am sure they are...
So how many FPS can you get with RT at 4k native?

No clue, I run a 3080 with a 3770k @ 4.5Ghz at 1440p/60Hz. The only time I use an FPS counter is when I undervolt. I was happy with the FPS that my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 card pushed. I only upgraded for RT.

Metalface Mark · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:14

pretty happy with performance 5120x1440 - geforce optimised settings so DLSS on performance (cant see any difference from balanced) RT on ultra and everything on - 60-70fps.

Jay85 · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:24

I'm seeing a lot of reviews with a lot of negativity but i dont feel the ratings really reflect the game as a whole. I mean people are voting 1 star on reviews because they see a tree branch clipping through a wall... It's like Blasphemy! This game is rubbish! Blah blah blah.

Gregster · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:27

Wrinkly said:
Fanboy, really? Look back at how I spoke of Turing's RT performance. @Gregster at one point thought I hated RT and then Nvidia. I don't mind calling a pig a pig, but here you are trying to put lipstick on it. Fanboy?

Now do you really think if AMD could compete with Nvidia's RT that they wouldn't have made sure the most anticipated title, perhaps ever, worked on their 'next gen' cards?

BTW. Both Metro Exodus and Control are running with RT on RDNA2, yet I don't remember seeing a patch for AMD's RDNA2.

My memory is rubbish but proof is in the pudding and RT in CP2077 is amazing. The game is amazing and my expectations were high but it has so far surpassed it. CP2077 is the new Crysis but runs fine on my 2080Ti with pretty much everything dialed up at 3440x1440 max RT and DLSS on performance average of 60 fps works for me. Blown away with how well CDPR have done with this game and I hope AMD get RT enabled sooner rather than later, as it does an amazing job.

gpuerrilla · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:30

q974739 said:
I've only just started control, and I have Oblivion to play as well.

By the time I get to 2077 it'll be GotY edition - am just really curious?

Ah maybe by then it will run like a dream on the cards, hope they do improve it.

JediFragger · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:31

Gregster said:
and I hope AMD get RT enabled sooner rather than later, as it does an amazing job.

They're waiting til they can launch their Super Resolution function imo, as they know RT will crush their cards!

gpuerrilla · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:32

Gregster said:
My memory is rubbish but proof is in the pudding and RT in CP2077 is amazing. The game is amazing and my expectations were high but it has so far surpassed it. CP2077 is the new Crysis but runs fine on my 2080Ti with pretty much everything dialed up at 3440x1440 max RT and DLSS on performance average of 60 fps works for me. Blown away with how well CDPR have done with this game and I hope AMD get RT enabled sooner rather than later, as it does an amazing job.

Great news Greggo! I said I cannot see how it would run like a dog on the 2080Ti didn't I? Its only going to run better with more optimisations and patches, people need to calm down.

gpuerrilla · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:34

Also, if you remember AC: Valhalla it runs bad on ultra settings, with HU done a video by getting like 30% improvements to run great just by toning down a couple of settings.

Gregster · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:38

JediFragger said:
They're waiting til they can launch their Super Resolution function imo, as they know RT will crush their cards!

Yea, without DLSS, I couldn't run it, so it makes sense.

Shaz12 · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:39

nvidiamd said:
https://twitter.com/coreteks/status/1336953604704522242

This is how you can increase the performance on the AMD cards. Just like on the consoles, it will render the frames at a lower res when the scene gets crowded but it will keep the frames consistent.

I told you it is the same with Godfall. They only unlocked AMD cards because there is too much work to do to optimize the game for another architecture. The same is true for Cyberpunk. There is too much work to be done before they can release an optimized version for AMD.

I don't understand the point of RTX for the AMD cards. The RTX 3080 and 3090 are on the ropes at 1440p barely clinging on to the 60+ fps zone and NVIDIA have worked with CDPR for months over the past year fine tuning for Ampere. The 6800XT RT performance is below that of a 3070 which cannot run RTX at 1440p. There is nothing CDPR can do which could make it playable on AMD. Their AMDLSS would also need to go through the same DLSS 1.0 and 2.0 like NVIDIA before it becomes workable.

The game looks absolutely stunning IMO and is a love letter to PC gamers, so the FPS just takes a back seat given how jaw dropping it looks. I think NVIDIA's strategy of beta testing RTX and DLSS with Turning and coming out with the final product in Ampere while somewhat ignoring rasterization has worked out great for them. AMD only focused on rasterization but given how amazing this game looks, I am inclined to agree with NVIDIA's approach

Shaolin Chicken · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:42

Th0nt said:
Also, if you remember AC: Valhalla it runs bad on ultra settings, with HU done a video by getting like 30% improvements to run great just by toning down a couple of settings.

Hardware Unboxed also said they would do an optimisation video for Cyberpunk.

Disco_P · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:43

Gregster said:

Didn't know Trevor Philips from GTA V was in CP2077.

humbug · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:51

g67575 said:
Yup, its very demanding:

The RTX 3060 TI is still hitting 60 fps min. though. You need a decent CPU to play at a constant 60 fps, 7700k won't cut it.

Edit -Full article here:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-performance-preview

As a 2070 Super owner i'm looking at sub 60 FPS at 1080P, i have a 1440P screen.

Its basically unplayable for me unless is run pleb settings, not really worth it. Why do Nvidia sponsored titles often require the most expensive GPU's to run over 60 FPS?

Gregster · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:53

humbug said:
As a 2070 Super owner i'm looking at sub 60 FPS at 1080P, i have a 1440P screen.

Its basically unplayable for me unless is run pleb settings, not really worth it. Why do Nvidia sponsored titles often require the most expensive GPU's to run over 60 FPS?

There was 2 patches before we could play the game and looking at that chart, throw it in the bin (not your card, the chart), as people are getting very good performance and it looks stunning.

Gregster · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:55

Th0nt said:
Great news Greggo! I said I cannot see how it would run like a dog on the 2080Ti didn't I? Its only going to run better with more optimisations and patches, people need to calm down.

Yea, you was correct brother and means I can sit out this gen and just go CPU and mobo this time. Saves me a nice few squid, so the wife will be happy

scubes · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:58

willhub said:
Can't wait to try this tonight, but phsyco RTX or nothing! 4k, HDR, RTX, ULTRA. At least I'll be able to turn the heater off and let the PC do the job

Gregster said:
My memory is rubbish but proof is in the pudding and RT in CP2077 is amazing. The game is amazing and my expectations were high but it has so far surpassed it. CP2077 is the new Crysis but runs fine on my 2080Ti with pretty much everything dialed up at 3440x1440 max RT and DLSS on performance average of 60 fps works for me. Blown away with how well CDPR have done with this game and I hope AMD get RT enabled sooner rather than later, as it does an amazing job.

So ultra settings rtx diss 4K 60 or did I get it wrong mate .

K1LaW8tt5 · 10 Dec 2020 at 11:58

Gregster said:
My memory is rubbish but proof is in the pudding and RT in CP2077 is amazing. The game is amazing and my expectations were high but it has so far surpassed it. CP2077 is the new Crysis but runs fine on my 2080Ti with pretty much everything dialed up at 3440x1440 max RT and DLSS on performance average of 60 fps works for me. Blown away with how well CDPR have done with this game and I hope AMD get RT enabled sooner rather than later, as it does an amazing job.

game looks great but that last picture is terrible. nvm it's a mirror lol.