*** Cyberpunk 2077 ***

TurtleTwo said:
That's exactly my point as said earlier, it's a strange concept, I guess I was brought up differently to others: work first, play later. I mean the game is still going to be there when they get home from work.. If people want to do it it's up to them, it's their life but I just find it very odd, only my opinion.
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Well it's been deeply ingrained into people for many years (and social media has really pushed it) that you absolutely have to be first in line and get your experience asap or in some way it is diminished... you'll be "left out" of the buzz and conversation around the new thing... everyone else will have it and be enjoying it but you won't? Are you just going to let those other lesser people do that or are you a cool person who's running with the bulls? And for that matter are you just going to buy the regular poo poo "standard" edition? Your friend over here might have plumped for the uber digital platinum edition and have a few bonuses you don't - you're not just going to let him think he's better than you are you?

But at the same time - if everyone took the attitude of being patient, realising that actually often the superior (or at least the same) experience is had by those that wait a little and that they are just being manipulated into spending as much cash as possible, it would hurt the bottom line of the game companies and potentially affect future titles. So each to their own really
 
jonneymendoza said:
Who books time off to play a game
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Anyone who so wishes to, it’s called freedom of choice. Personally I don’t understand why people go on skiing holidays when it’s cold and wet there. But I understand they are free to choose so why would they care what I think?
 
uncle_rufus said:
Well it's been deeply ingrained into people for many years (and social media has really pushed it) that you absolutely have to be first in line and get your experience asap or in some way it is diminished... you'll be "left out" of the buzz and conversation around the new thing... everyone else will have it and be enjoying it but you won't? Are you just going to let those other lesser people do that or are you a cool person who's running with the bulls? And for that matter are you just going to buy the regular poo poo "standard" edition? Your friend over here might have plumped for the uber digital platinum edition and have a few bonuses you don't - you're not just going to let him think he's better than you are you?

But at the same time - if everyone took the attitude of being patient, realising that actually often the superior (or at least the same) experience is had by those that wait a little and that they are just being manipulated into spending as much cash as possible, it would hurt the bottom line of the game companies and potentially affect future titles. So each to their own really
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This exactly, especially with the gaming indsutry nowadays with crap being pumped out unfinished and filled with a plethora of bugs. Also, imagine caring about being first to play something like it actually means anything. Social media has really brainwashed people.
 
TurtleTwo said:
That's exactly my point as said earlier, it's a strange concept, I guess I was brought up differently to others: work first, play later. I mean the game is still going to be there when they get home from work.. If people want to do it it's up to them, it's their life but I just find it very odd, only my opinion.
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In my case I have some holiday days left which I need to use up before the end of the year. I won't be using them for any other reason because of coronavirus so why not use them for this?
 
jonneymendoza said:
Who books time off to play a game
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Tons of people do.

Why do people take time off to begin with? Either because they've commitments or work they need to focus on elsewhere, or to relax and recharge on some form of holiday. In the case of the latter, different people enjoy different things and many may well benefit more from a relaxing week at home playing computer games than going away somewhere. Then of course there's the current situation with Covid which is obviously going to heavily limit what many people can do while off work.

One of the best 'holidays' I've ever had by a large margin was back in 2009, it was October and I had a lot of holiday building up that I hadn't used and was asked to take a couple of weeks off rather than let it all roll over to the next year. I didn't really have anything planned but I was an avid WoW player at the time, so I booked the time to coincide with the release of the Wrath of the Lich King expansion. Prior to that I always went into time off with the belief that I needed to make the absolute most of it, meaning going away somewhere and squeezing as much into the time as I possibly could. Those two weeks off changed my opinion of how time off should be spent entirely, being able to just chill out and play games and enjoy one or two other hobbies with zero commitments and no schedules did absolute wonders for me and was far more refreshing than 90% of the more active holidays I'd taken. I came to the realisation that making big plans for every holiday could be a stressful experience rather than a relaxing one, albeit a potentially fun and memorable one.

Ever since I've been happy to take time off to play the odd game, the last would have been FF7R back in April but thanks to the pandemic I was at home for the release anyway and didn't have a lot to do. I've even taken a few days off for book releases I've been looking forward to, or to go see a movie, or to go see a band play.
 
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Andr3w said:
I guess anyone who enjoys gaming as a hobby and wants a good few hours of uninterrupted gaming for something they've been looking forward to?
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You can get a good few hours after work and on weekends. It's not like your going on holiday or at a concert or a pub or watching sports in a stadium etc etc. Where in a pandemic with a 2nd wave hitting the whole of Europe
 
jonneymendoza said:
Where in a pandemic with a 2nd wave hitting the whole of Europe
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What on earth does that have to do with it?

If anything the fact we're in a pandemic means peoples choices are more limited when it comes to time off, or are you suggesting that people should for some reason forgo their holiday entitlement because of Covid?
 
jonneymendoza said:
You can get a good few hours after work and on weekends. It's not like your going on holiday or at a concert or a pub or watching sports in a stadium etc etc. Where in a pandemic with a 2nd wave hitting the whole of Europe
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Some people don't like to go on "holiday", some people don't like concerts or sport. Gaming is just as a valid hobby/past time as any of those. I have no idea why anybody would want to travel abroad to watch sport or go on a sking holiday, however I totally respect their choices and I am happy they enjoy doing so. Just like I expect there are people who would hate the thought of taking a 10 day full-on festival camping trip ending up so broken you end up in a hospital.
It really is horses for courses n all that.
 
jonneymendoza said:
You can get a good few hours after work and on weekends. It's not like your going on holiday or at a concert or a pub or watching sports in a stadium etc etc. Where in a pandemic with a 2nd wave hitting the whole of Europe
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we're*

What are you talking about? How is this even REMOTELY related to COVID?

So because somebody could get a few hours gaming on a weekend they're not allowed to book a week day off work? What if somebody had a hobby of going to football games - and the game was on a friday? Are they allowed to book time off to travel to the game or do they have to miss it?
 
Andr3w said:
So because somebody could get a few hours gaming on a weekend they're not allowed to book a week day off work? What if somebody had a hobby of going to football games - and the game was on a friday? Are they allowed to book time off to travel to the game or do they have to miss it?
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Does that analogy work? Isn't the point that unlike a scheduled football game there's nothing saying that you absolutely must play the new game immediately when it releases... and then we're back into the realm of "I simply must experience everything as fast as possible to remain superior to everyone else"
 
uncle_rufus said:
Does that analogy work? Isn't the point that unlike a scheduled football game there's nothing saying that you absolutely must play the new game immediately when it releases... and then we're back into the realm of "I simply must experience everything as fast as possible to remain superior to everyone else"
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Something being scheduled or not isn't really relevant, if you choose to take time off for entertainment I really don't see the difference. We're not talking about taking a sick day, we're talking about someone opting to use their holiday entitlement on something they choose. There's no debate to be had about it, and I've absolutely no idea where you're getting the 'superior' part from, as though someone getting to enjoy a single player RPG (or any game, for that matter) in their free time is something anyone sane would choose to laud over other people. I'd never personally take time off and spend thousands to travel to another country for the sake of sunbathing all day every day, but many people do and nobody bats an eye over it.
 
Gray2233 said:
Something being scheduled or not isn't really relevant, if you choose to take time off for entertainment I really don't see the difference. We're not talking about taking a sick day, we're talking about someone opting to use their holiday entitlement on something they choose. There's no debate to be had about it, and I've absolutely no idea where you're getting the 'superior' part from, as though someone getting to enjoy a single player RPG in their free time is something anyone sane would choose to laud over other people. I'd never personally take time off and spend thousands to travel to another country for the sake of sunbathing all day every day, but many people do and nobody bats an eye over it.
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Well firstly for the record I was never arguing that people can't spend their free time however they want - I believe I said "each to their own" and earlier mentioned that it wasn't something I would do myself and don't really understand it, but that's not exactly judgement or telling people what they can and can't do...

As for the superior thing I'm sorry to say that that really is just the way the world is now over virtually everything... Obviously it is a generalisation but everything is marketed on the FOMO factor stoked super hard by social media these days - just look around at the launch of anything and you'll see it. How about those 30XX series cards lately to pick even just one topical example?
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Who cares what people do with their time off? Classic OcUK.
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  • Completely over the top reactions ('**** this game.........I am never buying a CDPR game again............cancelling my order') - check
  • Arguments about taking time off - check
Sounds just about right for the internet unfortunately....
 
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