Dalglish resigned/sacked?

Armin Van buuren? football will be **** but atleast we'll have some decent trance on the go on the coach!

Seriously, there is just noway Kenny could have stayed, the results were bad, really bad, this **** about had we not hit bars/posts etc etc, doesnt wash, the coaches were plainly not doing their jobs, and the Evra affair reflected bady on the club and made us a laughing stock. Carling cup, was nice, but not good enough, and lets face it, beating cardiff on pens, glossed over a really really poor season.

Martinez? no, despit poor results over the last 5 seasons, we are still a club with a decent reputation world wide, so we have to cast our net a little wider than ****ing Wigan.I love the press in this country, 8 good games and you are a world beater, forget the 20 or so shocking games that the fella had.
 
BaZ87 said:
So, for example, when you lose Fernando Torres and replace him with Carroll, you ignore the fact that you've lost a certain player and automatically expect you'll be better off because you've spent £x? By DM's thinking, Liverpool should have been better off when we lost Mascherano and got Poulsen, after all losing a player counts for nothing, we had £5m to replace him.
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Again that is completely irrelevant, you can spend £5mil well, or badly, or you can spend £120 mil well, or badly.

It's as simple as that, net spend has no basis in talking about how well Dalglish spent, because he DID spend £120mil, that is the money that was available to him, he could have bought anyone he wanted, he could have spent half that and gotten better players than the ones he did.

Newcastle have, for instance, not only bought FREE players vastly superior to your £35mil striker, they've also made a profit on strikers, how does your net spend argument hold up there?

It's an entirely seperate argument. The very simple fact is that Daglish is being judged in terms of spending, on how good the guys HE brought in are doing, and they are sucking, it wouldn't have mattered if they cost him £20mil total or £250mil, they aren't doing the job, the fact that he vastly overspent on most of them simply makes it worse, if they were free transfers they still wouldn't be good choices.

Anyway, as for easily replacing him with the right manager, it is pretty easy.

The only thing anyone without blinkers on knows, is that Daglish is NOT the guy, you can have NOT the guy for the next decade, and get no where, or you can try new managers till one works, maybe it takes 8 years and 4 different managers, you'd still be better off than paying a guy you know isn't going to cut it. The upside is, you might get the right manager first time out, also very possible.

Anyway, what Liverpool fan(let alone the owners) would ever trust Daglish with a big transfer budget again? So how exactly is he going to turn it around next season or the season after, has he shown the ability to buy a gem of a player for sub £10mil, not even slightly.

As to not giving him a chance to resign, that was clearly what the meeting is for, if Daglish hadn't already decided to resign before that meeting, he was never going to, firing him was the next step.
 
Did I comment on whether the money was spent well or not? Or did I comment on the amount of money the club invested, which Tummy mentioned? If only you read what people said it would save you writing so much nonsense.
 
Tinders said:
Martinez? no, despit poor results over the last 5 seasons, we are still a club with a decent reputation world wide, so we have to cast our net a little wider than ****ing Wigan.I love the press in this country, 8 good games and you are a world beater, forget the 20 or so shocking games that the fella had.
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How many people have posted similar drivel, Wigan are a team with 1/3rd the wage spend of Liverpool/Arsenal, half the wage spend of Villa, 20-25mil behind Bolton.

Coaching and managing are NOT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE CLUB. Judging Martinez because Wigan can't achieve great results when they have neither the players, nor the budget, not the transfer to compete at all is beyond ridiculous.

On a TINY budget, with tiny wages, with their best player(s) sold almost yearly he has maintained premiership status despite all the odds being against Wigan.

Judge MARTINEZ not WIGAN, they are two separate entities, Wigan are close to relegation all the time, because they have players that shouldn't be anywhere near midtable. Martinez is likely over achieving at Wigan. :rolleyes:
 
BaZ87 said:
They spent £100m+? Does the money brought back in not count?

And if you have no understanding of the game, how are you in a position to sack a manager and then pick his replacement?
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BaZ87 said:
Did I comment on whether the money was spent well or not? Or did I comment on the amount of money the club invested, which Tummy mentioned? If only you read what people said it would save you writing so much nonsense.
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No, everyone else was commenting on if the money was well spent, and you tried the very very old argument of "but, but its Liverpool, we prefer to talk about net spend" rubbish.

You asked a question about net spend, everyone told you the answer, it makes zero difference in this situation, you WERE trying to justify his spending, because that is all Tummy was talking about, and everyone else.

Tummy is talking about DALGLISH'S spending, and YOU tried to make it about the investment in the club, and that somehow 120mil spent doesn't count fully if money was also coming into the club.
 
No, what I said was very clear. Tummy was talking about their investment, they didn't invest £100m+. As I said, learn to read and it will save you writing so much and everybody else from having to read it.
 
If I own a phone and sell it for £50 to raise cash to add to the £50 cash I've saved to give to a friend to invest for me, then I have invested £100 with him. I owned the thing worth £50 anyway, how I choose to raise the capital does not effect the value of my investment.
 
DanH84 said:
If I own a phone and sell it for £50 to raise cash to add to the £50 cash I've saved to give to a friend to invest for me, then I have invested £100 with him. I owned the thing worth £50 anyway, how I choose to raise the capital does not effect the value of my investment.
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However your new phone/investment will (or should) only be worth £50 more than your old phone.

edit: Furthermore, if you phone is already included within your business, you've only invested a further £50 into your business to make your new purchase.
 
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Nooooooooooooooo ooooooooo oooooooo ooooooo, I'm devastated!!!!

AVB, is the obvious best choice for Liverpool.
 
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