Dalglish resigned/sacked?

drunkenmaster said:
People need to start treating football management like any other management. The owners are asking a broad range of managers what THEY would do IF they had the job, better than arbitrarily picking a manager to be favourite, when later on it turns out their great idea is to bring the great long ball football back to Liverpool.

What if Capello gets interviewed and says, I want a 50mil budget, I think Gerrard and Caragher should go, and I want more wages available, then another manager, AVB says Gerrard will become the focal point of the team, Carroll and Downing should go, he wants to play a high line, attacking football, needs a left winger, left back, thinks Henderson can come good, wants cover for Lucas, and needs 3 more players to cope with Europa league footie.

One manager just asks for bog standard stuff, one manager seems to know Liverpool, knows what they need, knows how to fix the team, knows what the fans want.

It's like a CEO/manager in any other business, research the team, know what is required.

Deciding arbitrarily to appoint "a name" without knowing if they know the players on your team, know what they'd do or have the same ambitions, targets, goals as you is madness.

You get those answers by interviewing managers, simple as that.

Barcelona interviewed Mourinho, and didn't like his attitude and hired someone else, the arbitrarily making some big name your target and getting them at all costs..... well look at Chelsea, you end up with managers who don't share the same idea's as the owners.

If Roman went out and interviewed a dozen managers, would he have gotten someone better 8 years ago who might still be there now?
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I have to say I totally agree with this :eek::o:p
 
drunkenmaster said:
People need to start treating football management like any other management. The owners are asking a broad range of managers what THEY would do IF they had the job, better than arbitrarily picking a manager to be favourite, when later on it turns out their great idea is to bring the great long ball football back to Liverpool.

What if Capello gets interviewed and says, I want a 50mil budget, I think Gerrard and Caragher should go, and I want more wages available, then another manager, AVB says Gerrard will become the focal point of the team, Carroll and Downing should go, he wants to play a high line, attacking football, needs a left winger, left back, thinks Henderson can come good, wants cover for Lucas, and needs 3 more players to cope with Europa league footie.

One manager just asks for bog standard stuff, one manager seems to know Liverpool, knows what they need, knows how to fix the team, knows what the fans want.

It's like a CEO/manager in any other business, research the team, know what is required.

Deciding arbitrarily to appoint "a name" without knowing if they know the players on your team, know what they'd do or have the same ambitions, targets, goals as you is madness.

You get those answers by interviewing managers, simple as that.

Barcelona interviewed Mourinho, and didn't like his attitude and hired someone else, the arbitrarily making some big name your target and getting them at all costs..... well look at Chelsea, you end up with managers who don't share the same idea's as the owners.

If Roman went out and interviewed a dozen managers, would he have gotten someone better 8 years ago who might still be there now?
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Jesus, your first sensible post that was worth reading. Now keep it up!
 
if there insistent on trying to get the dof/manager setup working i would have thought it would make more sense to get the dof in place then work on the manager

least ways it would be clear to the manager who/how he'd be working rather than pull someone into the dof position later on and things just get worse.
 
mp260767 said:
if there insistent on trying to get the dof/manager setup working i would have thought it would make more sense to get the dof in place then work on the manager

least ways it would be clear to the manager who/how he'd be working rather than pull someone into the dof position later on and things just get worse.
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I strongly suspect that a whoever will be taking up the DoF type position (Ayre told journo's that the role won't be exactly the same as Comolli had) has already been appointed but they're not announcing it quite yet. The last thing any DoF would have wanted would have been to be appointed a couple of weeks ago and be seen as the guy that sacked Dalglish.
Moses said:
They just wanted to interview him - they didn't offer him the job. If you were Rodgers, and you knew they were going to be interviewing Capello/AVB/etc... would you go to interview? Perhaps he just didn't think he was first choice/wasn't leading the running, so thought it best to stay loyal in the board's eyes.
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Exactly. It's a tricky situation for anybody already in a job to take an interview for another job when it's far from certain that you'll get it. Had he spoke to us then sections of Swansea's support would start questioning his commitment to them, which is a big price to pay when you're probably the least likely candidate on the short-list.
 
BaZ87 said:
I strongly suspect that a whoever will be taking up the DoF type position (Ayre told journo's that the role won't be exactly the same as Comolli had) has already been appointed but they're not announcing it quite yet. The last thing any DoF would have wanted would have been to be appointed a couple of weeks ago and be seen as the guy that sacked Dalglish.
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that's fair enough, if they have done at least it shows a bit of thought, and realisation not everything has to be done through the media.

not sure how comolli was doing the job, but from what i've heard in the past i've liked the way wenger/dein worked it at arsenal, whereas wenger controlled who he wanted and dein did all the dirty work with contracts etc.

the requirement has to allow the manager to control who comes in, because they have to get the results and know how they want to work.
 
Kasmar said:
They should hire Benitez again, great manager and quite successful with Liverpool before.
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I don't think he could deal with the new management structure as alluded to by Ian Ayre today. It would seem the new 'manager' would actually be more a head-coach, with directors more in charge of player acquisitions and the like. Benitez was a 'full control' kind of guy.
 
When I heard Kenny got sacked I was shocked, but I instantly thought that it must be because their number one target was available. Otherwise its just an insane and rushed decision... something I just don't feel these yanks would do.

I want a manager who can bring quality players into the club. Kinda like what Benitez did with his Spanish armada. He had influence at the time with young Spanish talent and was able to make Liverpool a very attractive club to join.

No champions league will hurt our pulling power, so its even more important that FSG get this right, otherwise I can see our problems going on for years and years.
 
Just looking at the odds for next manager ....could Ancelotti be a dark horse, or is that not going to happen? I seem to remember him saying he would like to work in the Premiership again
 
squerble said:
I don't think he could deal with the new management structure as alluded to by Ian Ayre today. It would seem the new 'manager' would actually be more a head-coach, with directors more in charge of player acquisitions and the like. Benitez was a 'full control' kind of guy.
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I don't think it's as straight forward as that. Benitez would work in that sort of structure, the key would be who the people he's working with and if he didn't think they were the right people, he'd want to select them.

One of the criticisms some Liverpool fans had of Benitez was that he put too much trust in Eduardo Macia (our old chief scout) so he has no problem delegating work to others providing he trusted them to do the job. In contrast, pre-Academy shake-up, most of the better youngsters would be promoted from the Academy and trained at Melwood in a seperate mini Academy because Benitez wasn't happy with how the Academy was run.

If the reports are true and Pep Segura (who Bentiez fought for years to bring to the club) is being promoted to take on part of Comolli's duties and Tixi Begiristain is being lined up to work alongside him, I can't see Benitez having any issues working with them.
 
Moses said:
He's at PSG.
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Indeed but i have seen a few places mention that he could be gone if they don't win the league this year, and one even promoting him as a good fit for Liverpool.

I don't really take a lot of interest in European football so I don't know about the situation at PSG
 
djkav said:
Pep Guardiola, who's Barcelona systematically dismantled Man U in the CL Final. He'll be a good choice :)
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I think that had more to do with the players than the management... ;)

Still, the very same Barcelona that lost to Chelsea with 10 men? :D
 
Robbo said:
I think that had more to do with the players than the management... ;)

Still, the very same Barcelona that lost to Chelsea with 10 men? :D
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Yep, the same side that took you apart twice, couldn't beat a 10 man Chelsea side :p

Does that make them better or worse than Stoke though Tom? ;)
 
Has anything just happened in the last hour as i had the oddschecker page open and just noticed a lot of bookies have stopped taking any bets on the next manager?
 
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